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09-05-2008, 10:47 PM
I did it lots of times...each time, nothing happened. i even tried doing it with the phone off...after trying to reset it...just after turning it on. What am I doing wrong?
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09-05-2008, 11:34 PM
507 error!!! yay...making progress. what now???
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09-05-2008, 11:57 PM
all better now...now i just have to figure out how to use the darn thing
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09-06-2008, 12:57 AM
Nice job! You have a fully functional BB now?
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Please help! -
09-07-2008, 05:42 AM
Hi Guys,
I have a BB 8310 which started playing up as of last night. Everything works perfectly fine except none of the buttons seem to be working, and i mean none of them including the volume control and the side buttons or the mute button. As far as i know the phone has not been dropped or been in contact with any water. I tried everything i could think of to restart the device and eventully i followed the directions here and installed a new O/S on my BB after wiping it with jl_cmder.
The wipe and the new installation went perfect but now i'm stuck at the welcome screen where i have a choice whether i want to run setup wizard and stuff but none of my buttons still work.
When i roll the trackball it moves the cursor around but it doesnt respond when i press it or any other button. i have tried everything i could think of.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks
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09-07-2008, 08:30 AM
That honestly sounds like the symptoms of moisture damage. Have you looked in the battery compartment, above the battery, at the 1/8" square white sticker to see?
And sometimes, if it is not wet, it could still be moisture in only the keyboard.
Got Your BlackBerry Wet? - BlackBerryFAQ
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09-09-2008, 12:09 PM
just started using this. pretty functional.
One question about the memory dump, however, is this dumping the nvram or EEPROM? and where does it save the output, and what format?
Could this memory dump be useful, say in a way, to recover MEP codes?
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09-09-2008, 12:11 PM
Not sure about nvram or EEPROM but there is no output and nothing saved anywhere with JL_Cmder.
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09-09-2008, 12:21 PM
Winloader,with windows forms,looks better
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09-13-2008, 08:02 PM
Help!!! I keep on getting this error.
F:\Users\My System Name>javaloader -usb load fileiwantoload.cod
RIM Wireless Handheld Java Loader
Copyright 2001-2007 Research In Motion Limited
Connected
Loading fileiwanttoload.cod Error: unable to open file
0 bytes sent at ~0 bps
Disconnected
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09-13-2008, 08:09 PM
Do you have the fileiwantoload.cod in the same directory?
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09-13-2008, 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
Do you have the fileiwantoload.cod in the same directory?
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yup they are both under the same directory thats what i dont get why it is not working.
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09-13-2008, 11:11 PM
Could be something wrong with the .cod. What is the file?
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09-13-2008, 11:14 PM
its a net_rim_bb_videorecorder.cod file.
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10-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Hi Doug,
My blackberry messenger was locked by the IT policy of my company. Can it be unlocked using the JL_cmdr and then restored by the back up I created? But then, the messenger will be locked again because the back up will contain "locked blackberry messenger"? Any solution will be greatly appreciated to unlocked the blackberry messanger from you or the other experts here. Thank you all for all your support to my questions.
Best regards,
Eli
Last edited by gsm4ever : 10-03-2008 at 08:07 PM.
Reason: typo
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10-03-2008, 08:09 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
You cannot get around your IT policy. You can remove the policy but when you reactivate on the BES it will come right back.
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10-03-2008, 08:19 PM
Thank you so much, John.
Eli
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10-05-2008, 06:22 PM
People who use JL_CMDER know this already, but I never saw a faq or anything on it, so I determined this through experimentation and am sharing.
Option "Wipe": As best as I can determine, this erases the boot block on the BB so it is unable to boot. It does not actually format the volume. Evidence for this is because after a "wipe" and an install, the apploader can still tell/see the older OS files on it and asks you whether you want to keep the 'newer' files or downgrade to your older ones or whatever.
Option "Resettofactory": This is a slightly strange one. It is named correctly, but works differently from "Wipe" above. "Wipe" is immediate. No waiting. "Resettofactory" involves a battery pull as part of the process (it tells you) and then there's a long delay while you have a screen displaying 'wiping'. What it actually wipes is your options, personal databases and installed applications then restores the device back to how it was when the OS was first installed. It does not touch the operating system itself, it will still boot, albeit as a 'new' install.
I like to run reset to factory after a wipe, and new install.. because as mentioned, the old files are still kicking around in some shape or form even if you can't see them directly.
Last edited by Technarch : 10-05-2008 at 06:24 PM.
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10-05-2008, 06:32 PM
You are correct. The wipe function doesn't really wipe it unless content protection has been enabled. Then it will wipe it and take a couple of hours to do it. The "wipe" feature just makes it ready to accept a new OS. However, after a "wipe" I haven't found that any files are "left over" since it overwrites a new OS on top of everything that was there. You'll notice that you can't save any 3rd party apps that might have been there.
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10-07-2008, 12:12 AM
I had really only downloaded this app to get at javaloader.exe really fast, but I decided to check it out. Anyhow, it looks like 64-bit versions of Windows really don't like choice.com being a 16-bit app and all that.
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10-07-2008, 12:16 AM
Ahh... funny what a little digging can turn up. The command "choice" is recognized by the system. All you have to do is rename or delete the choice.com in the JL_Cmder folder. All is well.
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10-10-2008, 09:30 AM
It was recently reported that resettofactory was not removing the IT policy on 4.6 or higher devices. I have updated JL_Cmder to version 1.9.1. The resettofactory function should now work for 4.6 and 4.7 devices.
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Gratitude!! -
10-16-2008, 11:24 AM
Thanks alot!!!
Worked like a charm..
i.e. Works as advertised.   
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10-21-2008, 10:03 AM
Thanks, this worked like a charm!! Did not matter what I tried I could not get my Wireless bypass and desktop connectivity back.
I had a new device that had never been on a BES, but I restored from a device that once was and it brought over the locks even though I had deleted the IT policy
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J_Cmdr will not load -
10-23-2008, 01:07 PM
Ok .. 3rd edit .. So I've ran the prog and op4/wiped it and now I'm getting a "507" error w/ a nifty little image above it. I'm lost now, any suggestions?
Thanks
Bryan 
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10-23-2008, 03:16 PM
It helps if you don't just edit your post. You're welcome to post again when you have new info.
507 just means that the device is ready to load a new OS. Follow the instructions for upgrading/loading an OS.
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10-25-2008, 11:42 AM
I noticed today with 1.9.1 on my Bold, that resettofactory isn't quite what I expected.
When I rebooted, even with a battery pull a second time around, there was still a running thread application from 'before'.. and going into options and selecting applications, still shows all the installed applications still present inside the device just not 'visible' on the screen. Selecting the 'thread' icon was able to activate the program and offer to install itself.
So I now think resettofactory just erases the general BB preference settings and that's about it. This is despite the screen saying 'wiping'.
To really erase you still need to run 'wipe' from the security options inside the BB. This definitely deletes the background stuff/files. OS will still boot.
Then you can run jl_cmder's wipe which will remove the boot block.
However even when you run apploader, it can still see the old OS , etc. and offer to downgrade or upgrade as the case may be.
So from what I can see, there isn't really a 'true' wipe anywhere where the device gets zeroed out completely turning it into a brick.
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10-25-2008, 12:08 PM
resettofactory was developed for removing IT Policy.
"Wipe Handheld" will wipe all user data and all 3rd party apps if desired.
Javaloader's "Wipe" will, as you say, remove the boot block. Yes, some stuff is still there but you can't do anything with it.
You are correct that nothing really wipes it completely, however, everything one needs is available.
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10-29-2008, 01:35 AM
Help!! I start runnig javaloader but when i get to the red screen to confirm (Y) or (N) the wipe, a BEEP sound and i cant continue.. also, if i try to use the option 6 Command-line usage I get the message "JAVALOADER" no se reconoce como un comando interno o externo, programa o archivo por lotes ejecutable. (JAVALOADER isn't recognized as an intern or extern command, program or file executable) what shoul i do?? im trying to wipe an at&t 8300
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11-09-2008, 05:00 PM
i get an error message when i open the jl cmder it says...
it says 16 bit MS-DOS subsystem
jl_cmder v 1.9.1
c:/windows/system32/autoexec.nt. the system file is not suitable for running ms-dos and microsoft windows applications. choose'close' to terminate the application
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11-09-2008, 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amandarina
Help!! I start runnig javaloader but when i get to the red screen to confirm (Y) or (N) the wipe, a BEEP sound and i cant continue.. also, if i try to use the option 6 Command-line usage I get the message "JAVALOADER" no se reconoce como un comando interno o externo, programa o archivo por lotes ejecutable. (JAVALOADER isn't recognized as an intern or extern command, program or file executable) what shoul i do?? im trying to wipe an at&t 8300
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omg that is my exact problem and i also have an at&t 8300
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11-10-2008, 11:05 AM
@amandarina @Liladam
could you try my program to see if it helps you?
BlackBerry Master Control Program (MCP) 0.9.0.5 Beta 2
please let me know.
thanks,
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11-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Having a bit of trouble.
Need to run JL_Cmdr to eliminate the IT Policy on my 8830.
However, everytime I try to download it and unzip it, all I get is a Desktop Shortcut that points to a non-existant location in the Program file folder.
I'm running Vista Business on a HP Laptop, any suggestions?
Is there a way to download it un-zipped?
Thanks!
EDIT: OK, I got it to load and run by selecting "Run As Admin". However, it has no effect on the 8830. It doesn't wipe any of my personal data, and doesn't remove the IT Policy. Suggestions? THANKS!
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11-26-2008, 08:02 AM
Hi:
Is it possible to capture the output of the "dir" command?
Thanks, this is a very usefull tool.
C95
********* Edited *************
Did it. If someone it's interested, the solution is:
javaloader -u dir >output.txt this file it's created in the JL_Cmder dir.
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64 bit os vs JL_Cmder's CHOICE.com -
11-27-2008, 05:05 AM
 BB Curve 8320 Tried to upgrade the OS and got stuck half way through (?) with JVM error 507. Now when trying to manually wipe the bb I get errors. Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. Get errors about the apps not being 64 bit and to contact the vendor for an new version of CHOICE.com etc....
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11-27-2008, 08:17 AM
in the program files\jl_cmder folder, rename choice.com (or whatever it's named) to something else like choice-old.com.
try jl_cmder again.
you may also need to disable windows user account control (uac) or give the jl_cmder cmd file rights to run as admin. not 100% certain there.
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11-27-2008, 11:31 AM
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If you already have 507 then you don't need JL_Cmder. Just connect to the pc and go to the same folder where the venfor.xml file was located and double click on Loader.exe.
JL_Cmder just wipes the device and leaves you with a 507 which you already have.
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12-02-2008, 09:55 AM
hello im getting the error
JVM 545.. i need some help..
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Worked Great -
12-13-2008, 01:07 AM
I tried getting my BOLD linked at work and they placed an IT policy on it that disabled my bluetooth desktop connectivity. This program returned my BOLD to good as new. Never do that again. I have to learn more about the device to be able to write progs for it, and make changes to the OS for mor control. Thanks agiain.
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