My TCP/IP-stacke crippled Bell Mobility Blackberry doesn't have MDS enabled through my corporate BES preventing me from using 3rd party TCP/IP apps.

I was thinking that if I were to subscribe to another 3rd party BES provider, would I be able to install my 3rd party TCP/IP apps without being hindered?

This should work since you will be only using the second BES for MDS.

I would think once you put yourself onto the 2nd bes it will wipe the service books from the first BES... so your corp email wont work... and so when you get your IT guys to add you back to their BES the IT policy will go back on and block mds. I would have to say.. that no, you cannot.

You are right since it will wipe out settings to "Swap" you to the new blacberry you assigned yourself--Because its a diff server in the SAME Domain....So the best way would be add it to the server using a different/new account without a mail database and continue to use it for 3rd party and tcp/ip apps/mds

I'm confused. In layman terms, what do I need to tell a 3rd party BES/MDS provider so that they don't mess up my corporate BES and email settings?

You've thrown me off with the "...Because its a diff server in the SAME Domain..."

TotalDistinction:

Any update on this ?

Rhinoman

What kind of update are you looking for?

I'm still at the same spot as I was when I posted the original message. Apparently, I can't connect to 2 BES' at the same time and I still don't know how to explain it to a BES service provider of what needs to be done if it is indeed possible.

Well, that was the update I was looking for. Curious whether you had received any info on this. I'm either going to have to go with Rogers (which has TCPIP natively), or Bell and a 3rd party provider.. kicker being that I've also got a corporate BES that I need to interface with.

Rhino.

The only way you can connect to a 2nd BES in the same Domain (name of your company.com) is through a different account or if both servers do not share the same SQL DB--assuming we are speaking of 4.0 here.

If all you want is 3rd party apps and MDS, call your provider, have the sim activated and a data plan added to it, go online to the appropriate bwc page, send yourself the service books and set up any external email account, and you should be all set.

If MDS/3rd party apps are being blocked at the corporate BES, there shouldn't be any way around it. That is the beauty of BES security.

yes but the only way he wants it is to use a new bb configured on a separate account and not in the environment-hence the 2nd line I wrote in my previous posting will work.

His situation could simply be bypassed by signing up for a 3rd party BES/MDS provider, wipe the handheld, connect to the new BES/MDS and get its service books and IT policy, rename the Service Books in Desktop Manager, reconnect back to the corporate BES though the IT policy won't be allowed since the new one is already applied, and should be a big ole voila.

But thats just in theory, of course. I would suggest you asking the company if they block MDS for a security purpose. Doing the above steps puts your company AND your job at risk, especially if their security policy states that they disable MDS for a reason. You shouldn't WANT to skirt by on technicalities.

But oh well, its like telling a kid that he shouldn't steal, right?