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Old 08-04-2009, 06:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As a new user I'm curious if BlackBerry Messenger traffic is audited or logged. Is the entire PIN content avail for others to read? Here is an example of an email that I received after adding a contact: Subject: <$RemoveOnDelivery,SuppressSaveInSentItems> BLACKBERRYMESSENGERINVITESTAGE2 -----?----<$RemoveOnDelivery,SuppressSaveInSentItems> BLACKBERRYMESSENGERINVITESTAGE2 -------o-------200:AQEBAAECBAACbqdF4wAACAEAAwAVAAQC6t74WcTsL4b1tW RPBBl+yu++aXQUAAW3wySYCh/PT8QCqekKFF0vUgJeMxQABtHOZychUBoyjeHwczoiILEErD5ON AAHuMMkmJoQPPsL3DkrYVFPH0y54qF0pl0fCJihbNBvOjfAPRW HRehU940G2rk3oY4H4EyCagAAUA==

Any clue what this is telling me?

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Old 08-04-2009, 07:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Once you delete/end the conversation it's gone. Same with Pin messages.

That is someone sending you a BBM invite via Email instead of Pin.. I'm honestly not sure what to do with it..
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Once you delete/end the conversation it's gone. Same with Pin messages.

That is someone sending you a BBM invite via Email instead of Pin.. I'm honestly not sure what to do with it..
Thanks.....so even if I'm using a company BlackBerry on a BES then content isn't available for anyone to see once the Blackberry Messenger message is erased?

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Old 08-04-2009, 07:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you are using a device on a BES, then you should assume that all content on the device and transmitted on the servers can be monitored by your employer.
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If you are using a device on a BES, then you should assume that all content on the device and transmitted on the servers can be monitored by your employer.
I've always assumed it can be monitored but conflicking posts on this site concerning the ability to read the entire content. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On a BES, I assumed you were on BIS not BES.

But, yes on a BES it can be logged.
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thanks....from reading this I see where PIN message content is reviewable but is the content of BBMsgr traffic viewable...I'm not sure based on what I read on the blog..blackberry messenger data...see below:

What syncs/is stored/is accessed by the BES includes:
Corporate email
Corporate calendar
Corporate PIM data (address book, memo pad, tasks)
Browser bookmarks
Browser site history (via the BlackBerry Browser)
Password Keeper data (although this cannot be accessed in any way, even when restored to another device, without the PK password)
PIN messaging data (including the actual message sent/received); logging turned off by default
Phone call data (date/time of call, number called/received, length of call); logging turned on by default
Text message data (including the actual verbage of the text message); logging turned off by default
Blackberry Messenger data (this one is extremely klunky to get and I don't know a single BES Admin that turns this one on)
All applications installed on the device (games, stock apps, etc.)
OS version installed on the device (so we'll know if you upgraded to a beta OS!)
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thanks....from reading this I see where PIN message content is reviewable but is the content of BBMsgr traffic viewable...I'm not sure based on what I read on the blog..blackberry messenger data...see below:

What syncs/is stored/is accessed by the BES includes:
Corporate email
Corporate calendar
Corporate PIM data (address book, memo pad, tasks)
Browser bookmarks
Browser site history (via the BlackBerry Browser)
Password Keeper data (although this cannot be accessed in any way, even when restored to another device, without the PK password)
PIN messaging data (including the actual message sent/received); logging turned off by default
Phone call data (date/time of call, number called/received, length of call); logging turned on by default
Text message data (including the actual verbage of the text message); logging turned off by default
Blackberry Messenger data (this one is extremely klunky to get and I don't know a single BES Admin that turns this one on)
All applications installed on the device (games, stock apps, etc.)
OS version installed on the device (so we'll know if you upgraded to a beta OS!)
BlackBerry Messenger Data (yes, the content of the messages) can be audited by the BES Administrator. It's not done in the same way that PIN or SMS messages are logged... but it can be done.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I just want to make sure I am understanding the messages. After we delete a conversation (Blackberry messenger) can someone access to the conversation? when you get the bill does it show how many conversations you had? and with whom?
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I just want to make sure I am understanding the messages. After we delete a conversation (Blackberry messenger) can someone access to the conversation?
If you're on a BES.. maybe.
I'm assuming you're not on a BES, based on your other questions below.

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when you get the bill does it show how many conversations you had? and with whom?
No, and no.
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On your bill, a BBM convesation will only show up as general, non-itemized data usage.
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What about the ability to actually view photos and other files sent or received via SMS or Messenger? I figure that it can be logged as a file received, but can the admin actually view photos? Before the comments...nothing weird going on, but do not want any family or friends pics out and about... thanks....
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No, the actual photo image is not stored or logged anywhere on the BES and cannot be viewed.

If you're sending via your corporate email, however, that's a different answer....
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