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Old 11-30-2005, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm swaping out my 7290 because it seems to be defective. I'll give everyone I know my new pin, but there are several people who may pin me down the road without having received the update. What will happen when a deactivated device is pinned? WIll the message bounce after a certain period of non-delivery?
I realize that the "D" indicator will never appear if the message is not delivered bu many (including myself) have way too many messages going through their blackberry to pay attention to which ones have and haven't been delivered (unless it is a critical message).
The problem seems to be that the device is never deactivated per se, but rather just stops being used. Furthermore they will likely refurb my blackberry and someone will eventually get it, presumable with the same pin.
[ I should pin my old device in 6 months with a message reading "you have my rim!". haha.]

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In my experience, PIN's to inactive BlackBerry units just never get delivered -- just a checkmark without a D.
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Exclamation Delivery Indication Warning

Just for information, I did a quick test. I just replaced my 7290 with an 8700. Of course the 7290 is not deactivated totally, just doesn't have a SIM and my it has been removed from my BIS/BWC account. I sent two PINs, one to my 7290 and one to both my 7290 and my 8700. The first just has a check mark (sent) amd the second has a checkmark and a "D" (sent and delivered).

NOTICE: Delivery indication means MSG delivered to at least one recipient, not, I repeat NOT all recipients.

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If you send a pin to a device which is no longer active, what happens to the pin depends on how long it has been since the device was last registered on RIM's network. I don't recall the exact timeframe, but if it has not been registered in a few days then there will be a red X and the error will be "Transaction error - failure at service". If it has not been that long and the device remains off, then the check mark will change to a red X and the error will be "Transaction error - timeout".
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Wicked. I figured it would just sit in limbo forever.
Thanks for all theinfo guys. pretty much confirmed what I thought (except for info from rcbjr- that's good to know).
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And if you wait long enough, it probably forces RIM to shut down wireless e-mail service into the US.

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