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Verizon BIS now 2.8? -
10-03-2009, 11:04 AM
Seems the login page for Verizon BIS has been moved...
Connected with the BIS 2.8 upgrade?
How the heck do we know what version of BIS we're using?
How is the new Google sync functionality in 2.8 accessed?
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10-03-2009, 11:35 AM
First, you have no control over which BIS is used. That is a carrier/RIM thing. The US is converting to 2.8 this weekend.
As for features and changes, please use our search function. There are several threads on what it contains.
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10-03-2009, 11:38 AM
The google sync thing in 2.8 i believe requires OS 5, most likely an official version, but may work with a beta.
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10-03-2009, 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubdub
First, you have no control over which BIS is used. That is a carrier/RIM thing.The US is converting to 2.8 this weekend.
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I didn't ask if I have control over which BIS version I'm using - I asked how to figure out what version is in use.
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As for features and changes, please use our search function. There are several threads on what it contains.
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Once again, I didn't ask for a list of features and changes which is readily available all over, rather, how the new Google Sync functionality in BIS 2.8 is used. I know how to search. This is not a subject that has been covered on the board, but rather, will now be covered as 2.8 rolls out...
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10-03-2009, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kurichan
DubDub - you really need to read more carefully before dashing off a reply. I didn't ask if I have control over which BIS version I'm using - I asked how to figure out what version is in use.
Once again, I didn't ask for a list of features and changes which is readily available all over, rather, how the new Google Sync functionality in BIS 2.8 is used. This is not a subject that has been covered on the board, but rather, will now be covered as 2.8 rolls out.
Search first is a great motto, but READ FIRST is even better.
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I read the post and I responded with what I thought was the appropriate information.
If you had used the search function you would have answered your question on Google sync.
The reason I said you have no control is that if you are on it, you are and if you aren't you aren't. Some carriers will tell you which you are on, others will not.
According to various postings and info from RIM the event has occurred and you are on 2.8. And those new features have been discussed here in the Forums. How and if they work is another issue that we will now begin to discover.
Using Google SEARCH, you would find this.
BIS 2.8 has landed in North America : Boy Genius Report
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10-03-2009, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnightdraven
The google sync thing in 2.8 i believe requires OS 5, most likely an official version, but may work with a beta.
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I'm running a beta 5.0 on my 8330, so far I haven't seen the Contact Sync option yet. So we probably won't see it until 5.0 gets more stable.
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10-03-2009, 12:05 PM
I think Verizon was doing something with BIS early this morining. At around 0200 this morning, mail wasn't coming in, and I could not access the email setup app on my Blackberry.
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10-03-2009, 12:06 PM
Wirelessly posted (Lets Go Canes!)
What if you resend your service books? I can't remember if I did that in past. Your features may appear different.
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10-03-2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubdub
I read the post and I responded with what I thought was the appropriate information.
If you had used the search function you would have answered your question on Google sync.
The reason I said you have no control is that if you are on it, you are and if you aren't you aren't. Some carriers will tell you which you are on, others will not.
According to various postings and info from RIM the event has occurred and you are on 2.8. And those new features have been discussed here in the Forums. How and if they work is another issue that we will now begin to discover.
Using Google SEARCH, you would find this.
BIS 2.8 has landed in North America : Boy Genius Report
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DubDub, this is a place to discuss and share information. I posted an appropriate, clear question that would lead to productive discussion AFTER doing a search.
The information on the board pertains to the Google Sync application, and pre 2.8 BIS release sync speculation. That's WHY I asked the question...
Now you have posted useful information. Thank you VERY MUCH! But frankly, your first post was more a brush off than anything and didn't address my questions.
The BGR link would have a been a great response the first time around...
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10-03-2009, 12:22 PM
Kurichan, chill.
If you don't want answers and comments (even IF they are not the answers you expected), then don't post questions.
You'll find literally hundreds of threads here where the issue was discussed in many formats before arriving at the answer.
Quote:
Connected with the BIS 2.8 upgrade?
How the heck do we know what version of BIS we're using?
How is the new Google sync functionality in 2.8 accessed?
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So if you only want specific answers to your specific questions:
Yes.
You repush your service books and it will be on 2.8
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10-03-2009, 12:30 PM
JSanders - there is a growing tendency on this board for Moderators to patronize and brush off users asking legitimate questions. The stock answer seems to be "Use the Search Button."
Read my original question, then read the DubDub "moderator" reply. It's a completely disconnected brush off.
From a non-moderator user, no surprise, no big deal, stuff happens.
But from a MODERATOR?
This stuff just isn't productive.
I've said my peace. I'm dropping this here.
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10-03-2009, 12:39 PM
Service books resent (before I posted this thread and resent again just for good measure).
No apparent changes in Address Book or Options.
I think that SteveO86 might be on to something by saying that we might not get the address sync until 5.0 is more stable.
I rummaged around Google and Blackberry.com for the "BlackBerry Internet Service 2.8 Documentation Kit" mentioned in the BGR posting that DubDub posted but am not finding it. Has anyone located it or any useful information?
Has anyone confirmed Google address functionality actually working in BIS 2.8?
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10-03-2009, 12:45 PM
1. On the BlackBerry® Internet Service web site, in the left pane, click Email Accounts.
2. Click the Edit icon beside your Google Mail™ email address.
3. Select the Contacts check box.
4. Click Save.
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10-03-2009, 12:51 PM
The "Contacts" check box is NOT showing up in my BIS Google accounts...
Has anyone had the Contacts check box show up?
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10-03-2009, 12:59 PM
kurichan, there is also a growing tendency of you to complain too much.
Good luck.
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10-03-2009, 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurichan
The "Contacts" check box is NOT showing up in my BIS Google accounts...
Has anyone had the Contacts check box show up?
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I have not seen it. Then again, I dont see the the resend service books option anymore if it matters. One of our respected BBF colleagues posed the same question, "Where is the service books?" on his twitter acct
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10-03-2009, 01:25 PM
Resend service books is under the help option. Thank you for the BGR link DUBDUB
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10-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Yep, the resend service books options has been under the help screen since the intro of BIS 2.7 earlier in the summer.
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10-03-2009, 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSanders
Yep, the resend service books options has been under the help screen since the intro of BIS 2.7 earlier in the summer.
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Thank you as well. I have only put real focus on BIS when we went away from web client (2.0?) and when we went to html e-mail (2.5?)
One of your mods had also asked where the resend service books links was as well.
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10-03-2009, 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSanders
Yep, the resend service books options has been under the help screen since the intro of BIS 2.7 earlier in the summer.
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Not so. Mine have always been listed on the left side with the other links until today.
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10-03-2009, 01:36 PM
Thank you Kingzee. Regardless, I am glad you found it and welcome to the site
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10-03-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kingzee
Not so. Mine have always been listed on the left side with the other links until today.
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I'm on VZW if that helps any.
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10-03-2009, 01:45 PM
kingzee, then that means your device never got on the BIS 2.7...
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10-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Right now I'm getting a message from Sprint that says:
Provisioning Status
The network is updating your preferred network list. Please wait...
<Cancel>
This has been showing for over 15 minutes.
Does it always take this long? Or could it be because of the BIS change?
Thanks folks
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10-03-2009, 06:49 PM
Is this why my sync on gmail has not been working? I thought it was a bug from upgrading to the .230 OS. When I delete from my handheld it still leaves the msg on the server and all the settings are the same.
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10-03-2009, 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foulwx
Right now I'm getting a message from Sprint that says:
Provisioning Status
The network is updating your preferred network list. Please wait...
<Cancel>
This has been showing for over 15 minutes.
Does it always take this long? Or could it be because of the BIS change?
Thanks folks
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Provisioning time depends on multiple factors, like the connection to Sprint's servers, their connection to RIM's, etc. Sometimes the network is just plain slow. I was told provisioning could take up to a half hour. 
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10-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rambo47
Provisioning time depends on multiple factors, like the connection to Sprint's servers, their connection to RIM's, etc. Sometimes the network is just plain slow. I was told provisioning could take up to a half hour. 
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Thanks. I got impatient around the 25 minute period and cancelled it thinking it was hung up. Then it told me it was cancelling it, and that was taking forever, too, so I did a alt+rtshft+del reboot.
Working OK - but the next time it happens I guess I just have to let it go.
I'm wondering if it's doing this because I'm temporarily in Detroit instead of home grounds in eastern PA.
Oh well....
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10-03-2009, 09:41 PM
Got a quick question for you all, how do you know what version of BIS you have. I resent the service books, but nothing has changed, am I supposed to see any changes or what?
This isn't the real Caesar's Palace, is it?
What do you mean?
Did um, did Caesar live here?
Um... no.
I didn't think so.
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10-03-2009, 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamirulz29
Got a quick question for you all, how do you know what version of BIS you have. I resent the service books, but nothing has changed, am I supposed to see any changes or what?
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Did you read the posts above yours?
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10-03-2009, 11:28 PM
I'm new to this forum thing, just subcribed, I have the 8330m and I installed the BerryBuzz app. My alerts are working except for my incoming call, the red flash comes on, instead of the LED color I chose, and I know the message comes up to receive optimum performance I need to change the "Repeat Notification/LED" to "none" to all my profiles. How do I do that i've been trying for hours to find that, there's no ringtone option under options. Please help and thank you.
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10-03-2009, 11:30 PM
See this BB Cool posting:
Want to Know If You’re On BIS 2.8? | BlackBerry Cool
Something is a little funny for me though: - My Verizon BIS login page changed
- The 2.8 help text is accessible from BIS
- I resent my service books
- I have 5.0.0.230 installed
- Despite all of this, I do not have the sync contacts check box in BIS...
Is anyone else experiencing this?
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10-03-2009, 11:52 PM
Wirelessly posted
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Originally Posted by kurichan
See this BB Cool posting:
Want to Know If You’re On BIS 2.8? | BlackBerry Cool
Something is a little funny for me though: - My Verizon BIS login page changed
- The 2.8 help text is accessible from BIS
- I resent my service books
- I have 5.0.0.230 installed
- Despite all of this, I do not have the sync contacts check box in BIS...
Is anyone else experiencing this?
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I just got home from work. Give me a minute and I will go check my BIS page and see. We have same set up looks like. Just gotta hit the banyo.
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10-04-2009, 12:04 AM
Does not appear my logon page has changed. I don't have a sync contacts box. So guess I am not on 2.8.
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10-04-2009, 07:04 AM
See that would be great! If I had a gmail account I could try it with.... lol
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10-04-2009, 01:17 PM
I have gmail and don't see the sync contacts check box. But then again, I'm not on os 5.0, so that may have to do with it.
This isn't the real Caesar's Palace, is it?
What do you mean?
Did um, did Caesar live here?
Um... no.
I didn't think so.
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10-04-2009, 02:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurichan
Seems the login page for Verizon BIS has been moved...
Connected with the BIS 2.8 upgrade? How the heck do we know what version of BIS we're using?
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Everyone is using BIS 2.8.
I noticed interesting thing when I login to my BIS account and tried to Edit one of my email addresses from domain that is hosted by GoDaddy.
BIS offered me Advanced Settings and under there is hostname of mail server, editable, and option to select SSL.
Enabling SSL didn't work for my email address, I received erro message that validation failed, but it is interesting new option.
Can't remember I have seen that before - and if you do see some new stuff when you login to your BIS account that could mean BIS was updated.
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10-04-2009, 02:34 PM
the advanced settings tab with those options has always been there.
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10-04-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sydman
Does not appear my logon page has changed. I don't have a sync contacts box. So guess I am not on 2.8.
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I dont have it either
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10-04-2009, 09:44 PM
We are missing something. I bet Verizon needs to update something before it is available. This option is grayed out on my 9530 running 5.0.0.230. From the BIS Help site:
Turn on wireless data synchronization
Note: Depending on your messaging service plan, this feature might not be supported.
By default, wireless data synchronization is turned on for organizer data, such as contacts, on your BlackBerry® device. If wireless data synchronization is turned off on your device, you must turn on wireless data synchonization before you try to synchronize your Google Mail™ contacts.
For more information about synchronization, click the Help icon on the Home screen of your device.
On the Home screen of your device, click the Contacts icon.
Press the Menu key.
Click Options.
Click your Google Mail email address.
Change the Wireless Synchronization field to Yes.
Press the Menu key.
Click Save.
Parent topic: Synchronizing contacts
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10-04-2009, 09:49 PM
Gmail account is not listed.
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