Am I supposed to have TCP/IP when using Telus network? My 7250 is now activated and I can get most things working, but I have no TCP menu in my options... anybody?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Telus restricted CDMA.

No... Telus will not give you TCP?IP info. What is it you're trying to get working?

Everything... MSN, IRC, telnet, any internet apps

I'm really confused, as looking through the FAQ, it says:

Telus - CDMA - Has TCP/IP
Recently, in late 2005, this feature got activated on newer Telus units. Newer models including 7250 now has a TCP/IP stack, no configuration is needed. Many third party Internet applications work out of the box on it! However, the older 6750 and 7750 models will NOT work with TCP/IP.

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7250/4.0.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

Just a test, posting from my berry :D

OK Meghurtz, you can't use any IM progs as Telus block access. Same with IRC and any other internet app. This is due to network restrictions imposed by Telus. Don't even try to call and complain.... I did and got no help from them.

On the plus side the new version of PocketDay WILL work with your 7250 www.crossriversystems.com and set "Communications" to BIS.

If I pay for a hosted BES/MDS package will that enable these apps to work?

Yeah... As far as I know that will solve the problem... I refuse to do that as I'm already paying for "unlimited" usage and can't see why I should pay more.

They said they WILL give out the gateway information if the "engineers" feel it is for a valid need. They have to submit a problem ticket and I guess they review each case on an individual case. I put in my ticket tonight, I will let you know my findings

Good luck! You never know, though I'm sure the engineers are probably basing the decision on necessity, ie. emergency services, etc.
A hosted bes solution will open the door for all of those programs you're lookin at.

I hate to spend another 10 bucks a month though... I'm already paying 90 for the plan, plus 5 bucks for caller ID, 6.95 for system access fees, probably a few bucks for SMS messages that I send, paying 16 bucks for satellite radio in my car and 10 bucks a month for my website, all these small monthly fees are going to kill me lol.

No word from Telus as of lunchtime today, still got my fingers crossed.

I have a 7250 on Telus and IM works flawlessly.....I'd look into it some more.....maybe you just need new service books.....Peace.

Ok sorry guys (and gals) what is the impact to me, the regular "Joe BlackBerry" user. I'm not sure I understand the limitations implied by this? Thanks in advance for any clarification you can provide.

Which IM client are you using?

...the one and only Ramble....

Are you using BES or BWC? 3rd party apps will work on BES... just not BWC and I'm not paying anymore than I am now.

Wow... I have Rogers Wireless service and don't have any of these problems.



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I've deleted and reloaded my service books umpteen times with no luck.... still having problems with the "WAP Browser (Telus)" program, it won't make a connection, I called Telus on it and they said there was a mistake in my account and it should work after a bit, but it still ain't.

Maybe I'll get lucky and qualify for the gateway. I do work in a job where having emergency access is important, so we'lll see

So are we able to have MSN, IRC, telnet, any internet apps to work on 7250 through telus

Don't hold your breath... I got the same answer.... months ago

NO Unless you use BES.

That's not accurate. A few months ago Telus enabled these features. I've used IM clients with no problem on my Telus 7250...

Sorry guys but I still don't get it. What do I do wrong? I've downloaded the latest TELUS' firmware to my 7250. Which is v4.0.2.29 . but I still don't have Options->TCP settings. Browsing is fine but when it comes to use ports other than 80 I'm stuck. I'm trying to run my own Midlet which supposed to connect to a server on a certain port. It just hangs.
I also tried Idokorro's ssh client which can be set to BES/MDS or TCP/IP connection method. So I've set it to TCP/IP ssh hangs too. I can't see the request coming in on the server site. I even reconfigured (and tested) my ssh server to port 80 . But my Blackberry hangs on port 80 aswell.

Really... I've tried them all and none work? How did you do it?

Sure. But the overage charges above 25MB...ouch.
I'd rather pay for BES hosting than overage.

...me too....I use Ramble almost daily....I used BBWeather before,pretty cool little app,but it's in Fahrenheit....Celsius,I would prefer,but respect to the developers ...Telus enabled all this stuff a while ago.....

...this may be your problem....my WAP browser doesn't work either...but why would I want the shitty WAP browser,when I have full HTML browsing with the Internet Browser!!!!....you need this...which is why I said send the new service books...try to get this on your ribbon somehow.....

...BWC.....and I don't pay for anything more than my unlimited data and the phone feature....like I said,Telus enabled these features a while ago...maybe you need an OS upgrade.....I'm using Telus 4.0.2.29.....

....I'm more interested in getting the 1XEV to show up....hurry up Telus!!!!!

Have a look in the preferences... right under the option to disable mds proxy, there is an option for changing the units to metric...

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...really?....I guess my blind ass didn't see that....I'll have to check that out again......thnx man

OK... I just downloaded Ramble again and it still won't connect. Infact I got the following error:

"Uncaught exception: Process Ramble(87) killed due to message queue overflow"

I too have tried to get Ramble....Verichat...or any chat program for that matter to work. I tried talking to people at telus and as i figured they dont know anything about what im trying to do.

I wiped everythign clean and upgraded to the newest version and still nothing...the main reason i bought this thing was to be able to use IM...


Edit: whoa brought back from the dead...
update anyone?

It's weird but I'm a BWC user that's had success running IM (Verichat and eMSN) and such on TELUS as well. I have a 7250 that I got just before Christmas and I haven't had any problems running 3rd party software.. I haven't tried ramble because I don't use AIM.

maybe it does have something to do with user accounts... e.g. if you got your BB before a certain date, TELUS has to do something to make it work for you as stated above. This is pure speculation, but it's one of the few things I can think of that would explain it (besides maybe location.. most Ontario folks seem to be able to get this to work..). I'm not running any special OS.. just the TELUS version of 4.0.2 from the BlackBerry website.. I didn't try to load anything before I upgraded to 4.0.2.

All I know is that I'm close tp dumping Telus. I too wanted to use my BB for IM and not being able to on BWC is making me look at other carriers.

Yea thas my problem, i just got it and am already looking at something else.

Maybe angrylogger is right because it does seem to be only the eastern canadians on telus get everything. Wow would i ever like to give them a ear full if thats the case. Telus started ont his side darnit :P
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I mean it sucks, i dont know what to ask for when talking to telus tech support. The guy said if i find any instructions on this forum to let him know and he will help play around with account settings. Any ideas?

FWIW, here's my service book stuff:

BlackBerry Internet Browsing Service
VID: GPMDSNA01
CID: BrowserConfig
User ID: -1
Gateway IP://206.51.26.162:17761;17760/lGPAK

IPPP for BIBS
VID: GPMDSNA01
CID: IPPP
User ID: -1
Gateway IP://206.51.26.162:17761;17760/lGPAK
(NOTE: same info as above)

WAP Browser
VID: RIM WAP BrowserConfig for Telus
CID: BrowserConfig
User ID: -1
Gateway IP://206.51.26.162:17761;17760/lGPAK

Secure WAP Transport
VID: RIM WAP Secure Transport on Telus
CID: WAP
User ID: -1
Gateway IP://216.198.139.70:9203;8502/lGPAK

Web Client
VID: GBWCNA06
CID: CMIME
User ID: -1
Gateway IP://206.51.26.162:17761;17760/lGPAK

Provisioning
VID: BESPRV-NA
CID: PROVISIONING
User ID: -1
Gateway IP://206.51.26.162:17761;17760/lGPAK


The entry 206.51.26.162:17761:17760 is all over my host routing table. I can't think of anything else in the settings on my end that would matter, but if anyone else can, I'm happy to share.


Further speculation: doesn't TELUS roam off of Bell & its family in Eastern Canada (and vice-versa in Western Canada)? Could this have something to do with it? It does seem silly that TELUS users would get a different package of fundamental services depending on where they are in Canada unless it has something to do with roaming on Bell. Do Bell users out west experience diminished service on their plans? I honestly have no clue as to a cause here.. I'm not really a technical person...

Same settings on my end too

Hello
Did you have a chance to solve this problem. I have the same one with a 8707v and i am located in Spain. May be your solution, if any, could work for me....

Time to switch to Rogers, friends. They are the only carrier with tcp/ip on a blackberry in Canada..

Rogers has some definate advantages over Bell and Telus in Canada, however they also have some seriously lacking business practices. I for one don't like feeling ripped off or mistreated. I'd probably switch if ole Ted could start treating his customers like human beings instead of wallets with feet. This is one of the few areas where I envy the American side of my family, so much choice and the benefits of competition.

Note: One other advantage for Canadian CDMA users in populated centers is EV-DO for Blackberry which Robbers Wireless does not have an equivalent.

I agree.. i'm with you.. i'm not a Rogers fan..but no tcp/ip? no international roaming? what's the point? Rogers bought the market when they bought fido. There is *almost* no competition for any company that has users that travel internationally. For anyone that needs or wants tcp/ip in Canada, again, no competition.

So, my hand is forced. I think many others are too. Until Bell (or Telus) can release tcp/ip for their devices, half my hands are tied to that, and the other half are simply in the view that Rogers has a near monopoly (GSM)

Oh also, Rogers gets new devices first. Bell's a full year behind.. telus..??? hunh? right.. telus who?

Choose accordingly... if you don't travel internationally, send the odd e-mail here and there, and don't care about installing any apps on your BB, then go with telus or bell. But you are otherwise forced with no choice to go with Rogers (Robbers) wireless otherwise.

People with a personal vendetta against Rogers (this is many people) are forced to lower their standards. Poor people.

^^ Telus and Bell offer SIM cards for international travelers--as well as "dual mode GSM/CDMA" phones.