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Old 12-07-2005, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright, I'm not one who is too conscious of what others think of me, but I cannot stand when others are looking "over my shoulder" at whatever I may be doing on my Blackberry. Despite the fact that an email I'm working on may not be top secret, does it really give them the right to read what I'm working on? I don't go and read their snail mail. I've noticed that this is happening more and more. I was on the subway yesterday, preparing some draft emails to be sent once the train came above ground. There was someone sitting behind me reading what I was typing. I turned, and just looked at them for a split second. They were like "I was just looking at what you were doing."

Am I the only one who gets annoyed at this? Itís 50 times worse when you have something with you that has a bigger screen (laptop, etc.).

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Old 12-07-2005, 09:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe they were just admiring whatever BB you had and were thinking ďDamn, I gotta get me one of thoseĒ

It happens to me from time to time while Iím on the elevator.

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Old 12-07-2005, 09:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In all seriousness, it is annoying but I find that mostly they are just curious as to what the "cool" device is that you are using.

Before the BB, I had a cool Samsung PDA phone, and it attracted the attention and conversation of stranger all the time.

I'd say it's a compliment that they are admiring the "gadget" they wish they had, but at the same time, still annoying!

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Old 12-07-2005, 09:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I usually click off what I'm writing and demo my toy. Never too busy for a demo!
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I personaly don't really care, in public I won't be typing up or working on things that no one else can see. If it needed to be private; i'd type the message while in the bathroom.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I personaly don't really care, in public I won't be typing up or working on things that no one else can see. If it needed to be private; i'd type the message while in the bathroom.
I am the same, nothing I really type is all that private. In fact, I would have to believe the vast majority of the public couldn't care less about the content of my message, but are more often interested in the device. Situations like that are usually followed by some sort of question of the "is that a cell phone?", "wow, what is that called" variety.

I'm always willing to promote the Blackberry!!
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like when people are peering...I type as fast as i can, and hear them muttering...ho-lee, guy!
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hehe.. with me often times they check me out :(
so what I do?.. I take my blackberry from my holster and show them off
that this chick's too geeky for their liking and I think it works. They always end up looking my BB probably wondering what kind of calcutor it is.. LOL
 
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Really nothing I type is top secret either, but I will admit I have checked out peoples devices also. On the other hand, I have also had quite a few people ask about what it was while on the plane or in the terminal. It amazes me how amazed some people are when you tell them you email from it.
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Its probably more of people being curious about the device itself, not what the person is typing. Of course if they happen to read something good, that pulls in a bonus. I actually did the same thing this past weekend. The guy had a treo and although if I could see what was being typed, I would read it but was mostly curious about the device itself being the tech geek I am.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, I can see how it would be annoying, but the others are probably right: it's mainly just curiousity, and maybe not even conscious. I think every guy has been in situations in which he finds himself looking in a direction he probably wouldn't be looking if he really thought about it.

And yes, it's rude to read over someone's shoulder, just as it's rude to eavesdrop on someone's conversation, but the fact is we really don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in those types of circumstances.
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Actually, we do have an expectation of privacy for items stored on electronic devices. BB is included. Plenty of court decisions on that one. Besides, it is just plain rude and those people need to mind their own damn business.
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half of my pins and/or sms' involve informing others of something attractive that I might have just seen walking by- except expressed a little differently. haha
(yeah, i could probably get a lot more done ifI just concentrated on the emails, I know)...
I have BBLight installed, which is the greatest utility for the rim EVER, but at th same time, I find myself shutting down the light at times to make it more difficult for others to read while looking over my shoulder. When in the subway, etc it is difficult to read the screen without the backlight on-- just a thought.
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just do what Nicolas Cage did in Weatherman, just walk around with a bow and arrow while using yout BB, Im sure no one will bother you.
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One of my favorite things to do is write, "some loser is reading over my shoulder while I write this. Maybe I'll fart!" or "the hit is on at midnight. Make sure you get him this time."
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scully-- LOL I'll have to try that sometime! I'll make sure the backlight is on HIGH too. ;)
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I dont have the problem with people reading over my shoulder.. The problem I have is when I am in a meeting everyone is passing my blackberry around the meeting, half cant resist to start reading my mail. I'm the Blackberry guy for my firm and always have the newest one so anytime I am in a meeting someone says "Hey is that the new one. Can I see it?" I think I might plant some messages on one.. maybe with a " did you know so and so is getting fired today"
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I dont have the problem with people reading over my shoulder.. The problem I have is when I am in a meeting everyone is passing my blackberry around the meeting, half cant resist to start reading my mail. I'm the Blackberry guy for my firm and always have the newest one so anytime I am in a meeting someone says "Hey is that the new one. Can I see it?" I think I might plant some messages on one.. maybe with a " did you know so and so is getting fired today"
That would be the reason why I lock my blackberry with the password before passing it to someone who wants to see it. If they want to see it, they can do so without playing with the software; especialy if they have a different model anyway.

I don't really do it for privacy, its more because they might do something insanely stupid or delete things I need.
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corman, i can see where we have a reasonable expectation of privacy over electronic data generally, but is that really the case when you're entering the data in a highly public and open environment? If I'm dictating a confidential memo while riding the subway, I'm not sure I'd be entitled to protection merely because I'm using a digital recorder. If I'm typing a confidential e-mail using a 19-inch monitor in a library or internet cafe, I'm not sure I'd have standing to complain if someone happens to notice what I'm typing. I know I'm oversimplifying the matter, but I really can't imagine the courts upholding my privacy rights in these situations (depending on the nature of the alleged intrusion), and I'm not sure there is much of a distinction in the case of BB use, at least from the perspective of electronic data protections.
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WNO, actually there are cases of "looking over someone's shoulder" as an invasion of their privacy. Falls in the "eavesdropping" realm. You are correct that there is a difference. It boils down to "expectation" of that privacy. There is a very different expectation between a small handheld device and a public 19 inch computer screen. There is also a difference in where you are and any efforts you might make to hide the info. The courts take it case by case and weigh the totality of the of the circumstances. There is also a difference between a civil intrusion and a criminal intrusion. This is an issue I deal with daily.
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