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Old 12-14-2009, 05:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i was just wondering do u still get charged for data usage with bbm if your on wifi? i know you don't get charged to use the browser... but it seems that you still do for bbm unless you turn the radio off... can someone confirm this?

also i got a 500mb plan this should be enough for me a month for bbm and e mail right i tend to bbm allot...

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Old 12-14-2009, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If I am correct, the berry will data default to the higher speed radio. (I.e. If you are on EDGE, and there is wifi, your blackberry plan specific data apps (BBM, email, RIM apps, Etc) will default to wifi because it is higher up on the scale.

I am not entirely sure, but that is the way I understand it
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i was just wondering do u still get charged for data usage with bbm if your on wifi? i know you don't get charged to use the browser... but it seems that you still do for bbm unless you turn the radio off... can someone confirm this?

also i got a 500mb plan this should be enough for me a month for bbm and e mail right i tend to bbm allot...
Do you have a blackberry data plan? If not, you will not be using blackberry messenger, period.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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that's the way i understood it and i was on my wirelss in the office all day downloading apps and updates cuz i just got the phone and other then the net and bbm i incurred 500 kb of data so im wondering if the bbm still runs on data
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Do you have a blackberry data plan? If not, you will not be using blackberry messenger, period.
i do have a blackberry plan with 500 MB of data..

i just not sure why i used 500KB of data when i was on wifi all day so im assuming that the bbm still goes through your data
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Blackberry messenger uses data. It makes sense that if you are on wifi with the mobile network turned off that the data useage would not count against your limit. However, I've read things about wifi on the forum that don't make sense, so I hesitate to guess. I advise you talk to your service provider and find out before you run up a bill.
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bbm has to go through RIM's servers to get to another blackberry, so I would assume bbm is counting against your data.
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By the way, BBM with just text, not sending gobs of media attachments, should not use a lot of data, relatively speaking.
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bbm has to go through RIM's servers to get to another blackberry, so I would assume bbm is counting against your data.
Yeah, that's right. Thinking about it that way, it probably does.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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bbm has to go through RIM's servers to get to another blackberry, so I would assume bbm is counting against your data.
that's true.. but then i figured with the radio off then you would not be able to use your bbm but with my radio off and my wifi just on i can still use my bbm...

so im not sure of how and if this works... with the radio on and the wifi on u get charged but with it off you don't:S
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thats because BIS is connected via wi-fi.
So while BBM is using the wi-fi to send the data, its still being sent to RIMs servers.
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bbm has to go through RIM's servers to get to another blackberry, so I would assume bbm is counting against your data.


that's true.. but then i figured with the radio off then you would not be able to use your bbm but with my radio off and my wifi just on i can still use my bbm...



so im not sure of how and if this works... with the radio on and the wifi on u get charged but with it off you don't:S
Here's the thing: When you have a blackberry data plan, your blackberry can still access the RIM network via the internet when you have wifi on and mobile network off. Thus, push email, blackberry browser, and blackberry messenger still work. Thus, you are using "blackberry" data in that situation, even with the mobile network off.
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Here's the thing: When you have a blackberry data plan, your blackberry can still access the RIM network via the internet when you have wifi on and mobile network off. Thus, push email, blackberry browser, and blackberry messenger still work. Thus, you are using "blackberry" data in that situation, even with the mobile network off.
ok so that mean with the radio on or off and the wifi on im still using the data for the bbm but the browser and everything else wont count to my data
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With mobile network off and wifi on:

I'm guessing browsing with the hotspot browser or an aftermarket browser will not count against your limit, but I would still talk to your service provider to confirm.



I'm certain that what Draven says is true. Email you send and receive, blackberry messenger, and any other RIM software like yahoo or microsoft messenger, facebook, whatever, will count.
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By the way, an unlimited data plan makes life so simple.
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By the way, an unlimited data plan makes life so simple.
yea i know telus does not offer unlimited data... as of yet
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I have a data conversion chart from work that says a bbm is on average 1kb or less.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Telus does have data value packages with unlimited data, but it says 'within acceptable use' as well as no tethering. Do you tether?


EDIT: I take it back, I just went to their site to link the page to you, but it looks like the data value packs with the unlimited data are gone. They've restructured their pricing to look like Rogers.

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By the way, an unlimited data plan makes life so simple.
Unfortunately, unlimited data packages are not available in many countries. We are spoiled here in the US with our 5 GB soft cap "unlimited" packages.
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By the way, an unlimited data plan makes life so simple.
Unfortunately, unlimited data packages are not available in many countries. We are spoiled here in the US with our 5 GB soft cap "unlimited" packages.
I don't feel spoiled. I feel like a customer who demands unlimited and the market has provided. Long live market competition.
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I don't feel spoiled. I feel like a customer who demands unlimited and the market has provided. Long live market competition.
Interesting perspective.
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