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Old 12-18-2009, 05:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Am looking at Blackberry phones but have specific requirements and not sure which if any model that would suit but would welcome advice on models either new or old.

I am on vodafone payg and want to stay that way as i use the phone mainly for emergencies as it stays in the car - I have at present an old nokia phone which has lasted years and is about to die.

I go fishing and some of the venues I come across only have local names and often find it difficult to remember where they were on return, have taken my tomtom unit out and stored the place in favorites but its too bulky.

So my idea was to get a phone with stand alone gps (ie; not one that uses the mobile signal and therefore cost money)
I also know that if a blackberry is capable of doing this i could also use an application that gives me tide tables that just runs as an application and does not use mobile phone signals which is good.

Any advice is welcome - thanks Les
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1- leaving the blackberry in the car all the time, at least in warm climates, is hell on the battery.

2- as far as I know (what I've read here) you cannot get a blackberry data plan on a paygo plan. Not having a blackberry data plan severely limits the data capability of the device. You can possibily get some data with a generic data plan, but again, you will be severely limited. With a generic plan, you will not be able to use the blackberry/RIM applications that require data, and some after-market applications may not work either.

3- There are two components to gps navigation: location data (from the satellites) and maps and navigation calculations (mapping applicaion & data). The gps function of acquiring your location data is free. The mapping/navigation application you use may or may not be free. It can be free, if you are able to use blackberry maps or one of several other free applications. But you will need a data plan to download the mapping data. The data plan is not free.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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GPS will require a BlackBerry data plan, currently only available on Orange UK on pay-as-you-go accounts. GPS on BlackBerrys does not cache maps, instead downloading them on the fly over the data connection.

Something like TideBerry supposedly does not require a data connection. That means you'll have to update the charts through your pc and perform a local sync to get them updated on your BlackBerry.
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Both are true... You can use a generic data plan and use google maps... The GPS itself is free as stated. You can download opera mini and use that as a web browser on your generic plan. So with the plan, you will have maps access and internet (using opera mini). RIM apps (like facebook, myspace, app world, etc) will NOT work on this plan. However, anything that is not rim will most likely work...

So, to summarize,

On a generic plan, you get:

Google maps (or like app)
Opera mini ( for web browsing, email, etc.)

You won't get bb specific apps or push email.
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Les,
Dont take offense to this but it sounds like your just plain cheap. Keep the tomtom and the Nokia.
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To add to aiharkness' point about leaving the phone in a car in a warm climate, it goes the same for the cold as well. Lot's of Canadians calling in right demanding free replacements because they left the phone in the cold car, and the cold condensation got to it.

(happened to my boyfriend's phone once)

I say keep your phone on you at all times so you know that it's in a good state, whichever way you go.
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Nothing wrong with cheap. A blackberry as an emergency phone that's left in the car always, though, that doesn't make sense. So, being cheap is ok so long as it leads to a rational solution.

But I agree, I think the solution for the OP is to keep the cell phone and the stand-alone gps unit.
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To add to aiharkness' point about leaving the phone in a car in a warm climate, it goes the same for the cold as well. Lot's of Canadians calling in right demanding free replacements because they left the phone in the cold car, and the cold condensation got to it.

(happened to my boyfriend's phone once)

I say keep your phone on you at all times so you know that it's in a good state, whichever way you go.
Good point. We don't think about it down here, but freezing a LiOH battery (or any battery) probably isn't good either, even if you take measures to keep the device dry.
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Forget the battery, it gets cold enough to freeze the LCD.
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Wow... Didn't even occur to me that the LCD could be damaged as well.
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Les,
Dont take offense to this but it sounds like your just plain cheap. Keep the tomtom and the Nokia.
Thanks all well youve really put me off the blackberry - cheap - not if Im prepared to pay cash for the phone
I just dont like having my hands tied in a contract, seen others trying to wriggle and squirm when they suddenly cant afford to pay a monthly contract and mobile companies picking the bones.
Im gonna stick with nokia as i have found one with stand alone gps so can use that on my payg
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Thanks all well youve really put me off the blackberry - cheap - not if Im prepared to pay cash for the phone
I just dont like having my hands tied in a contract, seen others trying to wriggle and squirm when they suddenly cant afford to pay a monthly contract and mobile companies picking the bones.
Im gonna stick with nokia as i have found one with stand alone gps so can use that on my payg

Good luck. Nothing wrong with finding what works best for you.
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