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Old 12-22-2009, 08:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I recently bought a Blackberry and one of the first things I, a Gmail-addict, did was download the Gmail app. Which I think is great compared to the BB BIS service with the enhanced Gmail Plugin. (mainly because of 2 way sync and the usability)


The only thing that really annoys me about the app is that it doesn't have Push e-mail. I searched for this problem and noticed other users encountering the same problem. I also found that this problem has been solved for Iphone users and Win Mobile users. In other words, if an Iphone user downloads the Gmail app, he does get Push e-mail. (in combination with Google sync)

So here's my question:

Why is there no Push e-mail for the Gmail app for Blackberries?

I've searched everywhere for the answer tot his question but couldn't find it.

I would really like an answer....

BTW: The purpose of this thread isn't to discuss which one is better: the app or Gmail via the BIS.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That question needs to go to google... They make the gmail app. We don't control the push email, they do
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I get that, and believe I have tried to get through to a Google employee. Didn't get an answer.

I was just wondering if anyone at this forum has had the same question in the past and happened to know the answer (or could give any other additional info).
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you add gmail to your BIS account, it becomes push.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't think any one here is a Google employee... just sayin'...
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I have no special knowledge, however it wouldn't surprise me if RIM wanted to keep push exclusivity to the BIS service as a competitive advantage.
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@djm2

Yeah, I thought of that too. But it happens to be the case that Blackberry users who have a Premium Google Apps Account or Education Edition CAN have push e-mail with the Gmail App.

So I guess it would probably be right that RiM would like to keep exclusivity to the BIS service, as you argued, but Google could (if they wanted to) give everyone access to Push e-mail in combination with Gmail App, for some reason they aren't doing it though.

Maybe because RiM doesn't want Google to give everyone access, but it doesn't really sound like Google to actually to make these kind of secretive deals which undermine the user. If it were the case I would be very disappointed in Google....
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Aren't Premium Google App accounts a paid service? Maybe Google didn't want to offer everything for free. Can't blame them for that.
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@Trimix

You're right about that. You can't really make demands if the service is free.

The point, though, is that Iphone-users and Win Mobile Users do get it for free. So that's basically my question, why do blackberry users have to pay for it and do others get it for free? Seems unfair to me, hoped to get an answer to that

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Not meaning to be a smart a$$, but since when has life been fair?
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Not trying to be a smart ass here, but I thought Google's motto is: 'Do no Evil'

And besides, I think you're missing the point here. It's more about the question why Google would do this. I mean, they must have a good reason, right? And since it is quite important for me (with my bussiness) I'm just trying to find that answer, or even better, to get Google to change this...
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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@Trimix

You're right about that. You can't really make demands if the service is free.

The point, though, is that Iphone-users and Win Mobile Users do get it for free. So that's basically my question, why do blackberry users have to pay for it and do others get it for free? Seems unfair to me, hoped to get an answer to that

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iPhone users do not get push GMail for free. They must have the $30 iPhone data plan, much like a BlackBerry data plan. If you have the BlackBerry data plan you can get GMail pushed instantly. I sure do! I have no idea what's up with Windows Mobile and GMail. I consider Windows Mobile a terrible solution. Not only is it completely worthless, it's actively bad for you. Don't mess with it.
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And besides, I think you're missing the point here. It's more about the question why Google would do this. I mean, they must have a good reason, right? And since it is quite important for me (with my bussiness) I'm just trying to find that answer, or even better, to get Google to change this...
Perhaps it's just lower on their list of priorities.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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@rambo47
I live in the Netherlands so maybe it is different here compared to the US, but the 30$ is just what you pay you're carrier to get an Iphone at a reduced price + getting a certain number of telephone minutes and/or text messages + getting unlimited access to the carriers' 3g data-network, right??

So, that kind of comes with getting an Iphone, i Don't think there are (m)any Iphone-users who don't have a dataplan. So you can't really say you have to pay for the service.

I do have a special dataplan for Blackberry at my carrier (T-Mobile) it's called instant e-mail, I don't know if that is what you mean. I, also, get my Gmail pushed to via BIS, but I want it pushed to my Gmail App.

About the Windows Mobile Devices, I totally agree with you about its worthlessness. I would rather get a really big picture of Dick Cheney's ass tattoo'd across my forehead than having to use a Windows Mobile Device. Where I got the info that Push Gmail is available now for Win Mobile Devices? Look at the website for Google Sync and go to the Windows Mobile section. It says: "Get push Gmail on your Windows Mobile device" (Sorry for not placing the link, but since I have less than 10 posts on this forum I can't place links yet)

@Trimix
No that's not it. It's already available for some Blackberry-users so they don't have to create any new software or anything. It's basically a matter of turning the switch so it's irrelevant to speak of priorities I think...
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