BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-31-2009, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell
Posts: 4
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Blackberry Desktop Sync with Windows Live Mail?

Please Login to Remove!

Well... my old Computer ran Outlook Express on XP and sync'd up my contacts and calender etc very nicely with my old but trusty Blackberry 7250...

I am now using Windows 7, Windows Live Mail, and bought a new Blackberry Bold 9000 to replace my old workhorse...

Am I correct in my findings so far that the Blackberry Software does NOT sync with Windows Live mail's contact list and calender? this cannot be...... can it?

Offline  
Old 12-31-2009, 03:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
tsac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Others run out when we run in
Model: Z10
OS: 10.010219
PIN: No Pin just a Tack
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 8,437
Post Thanks: 43
Thanked 598 Times in 591 Posts
Default

Reading about windows 7 live mail it appears that the contacts are stored on the server and unlike the versions you mentioned which keep the contacts locally, it seems the DM sync does not see any lists. Windows live does offer a method to backup to the local PC. That may work.
Just my guess. Someone else here may have more info.

Godd luck and welcome to the Forums
__________________
If someone helps, tell them by clicking the Thanks button


9810 BES
Z10 on BES
9700 BIS
Offline  
Old 12-31-2009, 03:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
Appleinator
 
Dubdub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Hampshire
Model: App5
OS: AJBR549
PIN: Ask
Carrier: ATT & Verizon
Posts: 20,036
Post Thanks: 54
Thanked 782 Times in 742 Posts
Default

Please search. From what I remember, there is no sync to the contacts and calendar in Windows Live. Don't use it so I cannot be 100% certain. There are probably some work arounds though.

If you can sync windows Live to Google Calendar and Contacts, you might have a solution as those do sync with the BB.
__________________
-->>BB FAQ

-->>Stinsonddog's Tip Site!

-->>Twitter


If someone helps, tell them by clicking the Thanks button.!!
Offline  
Old 12-31-2009, 03:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
BlackBerry Master
 
Motorcycle Mama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Model: 9930
OS: 7.1.0.163
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 4,351
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 249 Times in 240 Posts
Default

I'm not sure about Windows 7. But in Vista, you can sync the BlackBerry Contacts to Windows Live (which is the replacement for Outlook Express) Mail Contacts. But you cannot sync the BlackBerry to the Windows Live Calendar.
Offline  
Old 12-31-2009, 03:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

No, it doesnt sync with Windows Live.
Contacts and caledar are part of windows live mail, which isnt a recognised program for DM.
The contacts and calendar are downloaded through window live mail from the server and are not on the PC at all.

Its also damn difficult to get contacts and calendar from windows live site to google.
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."

Last edited by MidnightDraven : 12-31-2009 at 03:58 PM.
Offline  
Old 12-31-2009, 08:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell
Posts: 4
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MidnightDraven View Post
No, it doesnt sync with Windows Live.
Contacts and caledar are part of windows live mail, which isnt a recognised program for DM.
The contacts and calendar are downloaded through window live mail from the server and are not on the PC at all..
Yeah - tnks for all the replies... I got to say this is rather dissapointing.... as Microsoft seems to have gone this direction therefore it is not making it an easy transition from XP to Windows 7 (excluding Windows Mail that came with Vista).... therefore Blackberry's powerful grip as the email king seems drastically ... shall I say... weakened. I was very surprised.... Now if I truly wish to harness the power of my 9000 I actually have to go and buy Outlook and port everything over...


Realistically..... is RIM going to adress this and provide a solution in the reasonably near future... or what other options rather than Outlook does one have for a nice smooth incorperation of BB Desktop withing ones email and contacts?
Offline  
Old 12-31-2009, 08:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
tsac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Others run out when we run in
Model: Z10
OS: 10.010219
PIN: No Pin just a Tack
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 8,437
Post Thanks: 43
Thanked 598 Times in 591 Posts
Default

I donxxx8217;t think Rim is the culprit here. Microsoft is looking to lock up customers with an online email system. And as you have discovered, Outlook is the option, at a cost. Maybe if customers complain to Microsoft they will offer a method to place a copy of the address book and other components on the PC for use by applications like the DM.
__________________
If someone helps, tell them by clicking the Thanks button


9810 BES
Z10 on BES
9700 BIS
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 07:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

I think its a case of MS realising that most people don't use their browser (IE), or used Outlook Express/Windows Mail, and most now opt for free Office applications like OpenOffice instead of MS Office.
Windows Live is free, so they are offering you the ability to get a MS product that does the same thing, for free.

The problem is, RIM set DM wtih outlook, because most businesses use it. Now they have moved to more personal devices instead of business, but havent acknowledged this in the DM software.
It may be a simple case of not being able to integrate with other programs.

Even my HTC with Windows Mobile Device center won't sync with Windows Live. Only Outlook. Luckily I have no need to sync it.
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 07:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
aiharkness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida Panhandle
Model: BBPP
OS: 10.3.0
Carrier: T-Mobile USA
Posts: 13,766
Post Thanks: 16
Thanked 504 Times in 490 Posts
Default

I agree with Draven. I think MS is going with the market flow, and Windows Live mail serves the needs of most consumers.

Maybe RIM will eventually accomodate Windows Live customers. I'm predicting it will.
__________________
- Ira
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 08:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

RIM might, but if MS cant integrate with Mobile Device Center, I cant imagine them letting RIM have a go. lol
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 08:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
aiharkness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida Panhandle
Model: BBPP
OS: 10.3.0
Carrier: T-Mobile USA
Posts: 13,766
Post Thanks: 16
Thanked 504 Times in 490 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MidnightDraven View Post
RIM might, but if MS cant integrate with Mobile Device Center, I cant imagine them letting RIM have a go. lol
Mobile Device Center? Is that what has replaced ActiveSync? I guess if there's an inside joke (... MS can't integrate with Mobile Device Center), I don't get it.

I was thinking along the lines of the Yahoo addition to Desktop Manager sync functions. That would depend on RIM and MS cooperation, of course, and maybe other stuff I don't even know that I don't know.
__________________
- Ira
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 08:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
tsac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Others run out when we run in
Model: Z10
OS: 10.010219
PIN: No Pin just a Tack
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 8,437
Post Thanks: 43
Thanked 598 Times in 591 Posts
Default

Hopefully Both companies will see the light and work together. Another thought, this may be tied to MS being sued ( and lost )in Europe for code violations in Outlook. They may not want to loose more market share.
__________________
If someone helps, tell them by clicking the Thanks button


9810 BES
Z10 on BES
9700 BIS
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 09:00 AM   #13 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

Yes, Mobile Device Center replaced Activesync on Vista and 7, and it cannot integrate with Windows Live either, only Outlook.
If MS cant get windows live to integrate with their own mobile product, I cant see them letting anyone else do it.
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 09:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
aiharkness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Florida Panhandle
Model: BBPP
OS: 10.3.0
Carrier: T-Mobile USA
Posts: 13,766
Post Thanks: 16
Thanked 504 Times in 490 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MidnightDraven View Post
Yes, Mobile Device Center replaced Activesync on Vista and 7, and it cannot integrate with Windows Live either, only Outlook.
If MS cant get windows live to integrate with their own mobile product, I cant see them letting anyone else do it.

Hah, that is too funny . . . Both funny haha and funny peculiar at the same time.

Way to go Microsoft!

At the rate I move, I'll probably get to 7 in the last third of it's life cycle.
__________________
- Ira

Last edited by aiharkness : 01-01-2010 at 09:03 AM.
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 10:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
MidnightDraven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chester,UK
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tesco Mobile
Posts: 9,481
Post Thanks: 2
Thanked 110 Times in 110 Posts
Default

I know, its ridiculas. MS are pushing people to use Windows Live, afterall, if you have messenger, why not Mail; as well as the fact that photo gallery and movie maker were removed in 7 to be replaced by those in the Live package.
And yet they fail to integrate with anything.

Also the workaround of getting Window Live calendar to Google (then google to BB) is also ridiculas. If my memory serves from the one time I did it, you have to export the calendar as .ics and import to google, but whenever you add anything to calendar, you have to import again.
__________________
~Midnight Draven

"That's it then. Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings... and call off Christmas."
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 10:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell
Posts: 4
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MidnightDraven View Post
I think its a case of MS realising that most people don't use their browser (IE), or used Outlook Express/Windows Mail, and most now opt for free Office applications like OpenOffice instead of MS Office..
Well I got to disagree here... most people are using IE, and MS Office... it's what the business world uses.. and they use it at home... only the techie types opt for chrome, opera, firefox etc... but the average consumer (90% of the people out there) use MS products... it comes with thier PC... and thats what they use...

(open office is pretty good but it's still not totally compatible and therefore not really a viable option if you need to be able to send, edit, and manipulate documents in a MS office world - but for for a grad student writing term papers, or if you dont need compatibility - it's perfect.)

HOWEVER this is rather off topic....

IF someone wants to sync contacts and calenders at home with ther PC and thier Blackberry.... What Outlook alternatives are recommended... (Other than Gmail - I use that for a different purpopse and wish to keep it seperated)

What are people here (that do sync up) using?
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 12:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
BlackBerry Master
 
Motorcycle Mama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Model: 9930
OS: 7.1.0.163
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 4,351
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 249 Times in 240 Posts
Default

People here primarily Microsoft Outlook or Google Sync. That's it.
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 12:12 PM   #18 (permalink)
Grumpy Moderator
 
NJBlackBerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: iPh6
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 27,821
Post Thanks: 33
Thanked 442 Times in 382 Posts
Default

So most people are using browsers other than IE and opting for free Office like products?

Really? And Apple is outselling Windows, right?
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 03:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Model: 9000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell
Posts: 4
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorcycle Mama View Post
People here primarily Microsoft Outlook or Google Sync. That's it.
yeah - I think your dead on here! I guess I will have to bite the bullett and go back to outlook.... I like outlook - just not the pricetag!

Thanks all for the input
Offline  
Old 01-01-2010, 03:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
Latino Hasta La Muerte
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denville, NJ.
Model: 7250
OS: 4.1
PIN: G!!!
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 9,045
Post Thanks: 52
Thanked 305 Times in 293 Posts
Default

I think MS will eventually allow BlackBerry integration with this new Windows Live Mail. Google will push them to follow suit just by being the more BB-friendly provider. If MS perceives this integration as an advantage for Google they won't ignore it for long. Remember, Hotmail didn't integrate with BlackBerrys for some time, but eventually MS got on board. So I believe it will happen again. The ball is in MS's court and all they have to do is dedicate the resources to write in BlackBerry integration. How eager are they to dedicate the resources, and how big a project is this? Unknown. Windows 7 is still new, and they have to prioritize additions and updates.
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.