Originally Posted by fonejunkie
Actually, as of last September, you can't BUY a BlackBerry (or any smartphone) from AT&T without a data plan.
But to be able to take full advantage of the BlackBerry features, you need a BlackBerry data plan.
That you can't buy a BlackBerry from AT&T without a data plan doesn't mean you can't buy one off of eBay and I'd rather pay $200.00 extra up front than an additional $720.00 for the duration of the two year contract ($30.00 * 24)
Originally Posted by dankarlinski
Wirelessly posted (White and Nerdy)
Agreed... If you don't get a data plan, its just a phone with a keyboard... Yourmissing out on so much functionality
I'm a long time Palm user. Started off with the Palm V, then the Palm m505, then the Palm m515, then the Tungsten T, and finally the Tungsten TX. None of those had data plans nor did I care. I could take notes on them and I could play games on them, which is all that I wanted. At that time, however, my pockets were full. I'd have a PDA and a cellphone in them. Now, I can have not only a PDA and a cellphone in one device (thereby saving lots of space) but a camera, too. Sure, a dedicated SLR camera would be better, but those aren't pocket sized, and as the saying goes, the best camera is the one that you have on you.
Sure, I'll concede that I'm missing out on functionality, but then again, it's not functionality I want. If I want to look something up I'm not so impulsive that I have to do it right then and there - I can write it down and look it up at home. $520.00 for the instant gratification that a data plan would provide is simply not worth it to me. Being able to use Google Maps would be cool but not $520.00 cool.
Also, the reason I'm considering BlackBerry over a Windows Mobile device is that the BlackBerry has a well documented API. There are lots of little things I'd change about my Windows Mobile device if I could but Windows Mobile doesn't document it's API very well and to the extent that it does it doesn't appear to offer as much versatility as the BlackBerry API does.
Originally Posted by hrbuckley
If you want a good smart phone that you can use without a data plan look at an Android. I have an HTC Dream, just upgraded to a Hero running with a Rogers Pay as You Go plan and use Wi-Fi access at home and work, for downloading. It works quite well and Android has configuration options that will keep the phone from using data if you're not in Wi-Fi coverage which can be a pain on the Blackberry.
Hmmm - I had actually assumed the Android was more tied to a data plan than even the iPhone. I'll need to look into that
And the iPhone doesn't let you block the settings at all? On my AT&T Tilt, I changed the MEedia Net access point name from wap.cingular to wap.cingular.bad, which effectively disabled data on my phone. If you can't do something similar on the BlackBerry that'd be unfortunate...