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Old 03-07-2010, 12:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering if one can swap the SIM card from a 8820 into a different BB, like a 8900 or 8310 and still retain all the services, features, and Enterprise/Server management?

Also, why doesn't the Storm 9530 work with AT&T?
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Wow. You sure are hitting a lot in a short question.

A couple of things to consider. If a phone is GSM, you can swap the SIM card and the phone features will work if the phones are either locked to the carrier of the SIM card or if the phone is unlocked. So, you could swap your SIM card into another BB and have the phone part work. It's the part about "still retain all the services, features, and Enterprise/Server management?" that gets tricky.

For a blackberry, you will have to switch the PIN/IMEI for the actual device through the carrier's BB service. BB features such as the push email and blackberry messenger and the built in browser requires the specific BB to be activated on a blackberry data plan to work.

Additionally, if the BB in question is on BES (which it sounds like it is when you talk about Enterprise), the new phone will have to be activated on the BES to work which means your BB administrator will have to be involved. No way around this. You can't do it without their knowledge.

Sounds like you were given a phone for work and you don't like it. Generally, most people on this forum highly recommende that you use the phone you were given by your company and not try to pull anything over by using an unsupported or unauthorized device. That does make the assumption that you want to keep your job. Many companies limit what devices can be activated on their servers due to security and suppport concerns. And if you do get your own phone activated on a company server, be prepared to give up control to the company as they can and most do, implement security policies that may lock down the phone so that you cannot install software at will and may even lock the camera to make it unusable in some cases.

The Storm 9530 is a dual CDMA/GSM device. IF you get the GSM unlocked, it can be used on AT&T. Search the Storm subforum for more info.
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I was going to ask them to give me an upgraded BB but was curious about buying my own hardware if they refuse. Everything seems to be managed through their server thing so no one is able to "bypass it' or anything like that. Quite frankly I'd rather not have a cell/BB than use this POS 8820.
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I loved my 8820. One of the best I've ever had. It lacks a camera, but then many companies insist on non-camera phones.

Any device you activate on a corporate BES is going to be subject to the same restrictions. They push an IT Policy onto every device on the BES and restrict your BB's use according to their own standards. Doesn't matter if it's a work-provided device or your own personal one. If it's on their network, you play by their rules.
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Yup, Rambo is right. It's a matter of activating on the BES, not whether it's your personal device or a work provided device. If you don't want their restrictions then don't activate it on the BES. However, then you don't get your work email either.
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I have a work BB 9700 and a personal iPhone with cheap data plan. Same phone service provider for both phones. My BB is on a BES.

I would like to put my iPhone SIM into the BB so that I continue to get company e-mail seamlessly on BB, but the phone number is my personal phone #.

Will this work, not work? Thoughts?
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You iphone sim card won't have a BB data plan on it, so you won't get email at all.
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Not to mention that the phone number is tied to the SIM the phone number will be the work number. And still no email on BB.
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Thanks TXLady and MidnightDraven for the prompt replies. Pardon me but I'm still a bit confused.

TXLady: If the phone number is tied to the SIM and I put in my personal iPhone SIM, why would the phone number on the BB stay as the work number assigned to the work SIM?

Midnight: I had read in other forums that BB mail and BES were tied to the IMEI and not the SIM... but do I infer correctly that the data package that actually transfers the mail is tied to the SIM... and that a generic data package is not the same as a BB data package?

(My iPhone SIM works fine for voice and data in my iPhone and a Nokia E61).

Thanks.
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Yes, you infer correctly.
Your iphone SIM does not have a BB data plan activated on it.
Therefore you won't get your email.
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