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Old 12-25-2005, 03:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, first of all, I'm sorry to bore with this first post.

Secondly, without wanting to instigate a flaming, is anyone willing to send through a profile.bin? I can host it, and for those that are completely sick of this topic, it might just go away forever. I've been laughing at the flames for the last hour, so if the answer is no xxxx-off (or something to the same effect), no need to reply ;-)

I'm trying to get hold of a BES installation, with the ITPolicy.exe tool, but I'm not sure how long that'll take, when I do, I'll host the file...

I've a newbie to the Blackberry (2 days in). I'm a developer, currently working on a J2ME application. It runs great on other J2ME platforms, but I appear to have the same problem as many in that I too got sucked into buying my device on EBay. The issue I now face is that I'm unable to install any third party (e.g. my own) applications. Now I know the cause of this, and the resolution (mainly through reading posts on this Forum) but I'm now wondering what big deal is in having a default profile.bin file?

I really don't understand the arguments that have been put forward to suggest this will breach a company's security model. If the procedure of allowing a clean IT Policy to be installed will compromise the security of existing BES installations then isn't the entire system flawed? Couldn't I have two BES accounts (one hosted, and one at a company) and switch between them in exactly the same way as I would switch between a company's IT Policy, and the Default, clean policy?

It seems utterly bizarre that RIM's two business models are BES and the Web thing (sorry, forgotten the name), and yet once you use a BES, there's a good chance that the Device will become useless for anything else. Wouldn't a better model be to essentially perform a scan of the device prior to connecting to a BES to ensure it hasn't been tampered with? Rather that the IT Policy take up residency in some PROM that can never be erased (the word virus springs to mind ;-)

I'm not being argumentative, I genuinely would like to understand it more (RIM technical support are hopeless).

Also, just a question I would like some clarification on; On the device, in the Security Options, I see a 'Default' IT Policy is installed. If there wasn't an IT Policy installed, would this be there? Another post mentioned something about this, but it wasn't exactly clear whether 'Default' actually means 'None', or someone simply named the IT Profile 'Default'. I'm running version 4 Firmware.

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In Options, Security you should see no policy when none is enabled. PM me with your email address and I will send you a default policy.bin you can try out. However, getting it to load and accept it is a challenge I haven't quite mastered. You are supposed to be able to put it in your default directory (or set the directory in the registry and have it load but when it has been loaded from a BES server it is not easy to remove it in my experience. One method that appears to work is to have a backup of a clean BlackBerry without any policy applied and then do a restore of the policy file (45 bytes) to the device. I did have the default policy.bin file in the directory too when I did it and that removed the old policy.bin.
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The following has all the instructions posted from 7100simpleisbetter in another post including a policy.bin file.

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The following has all the instructions posted from 7100simpleisbetter in another post including a policy.bin file.

http://users.tpg.com.au/dan1e1w/

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In little less than 10 minutes I accomplished what I had been trying to do for the past 3 months. I had bought a used 7250 from e-Bay to have as a backup phone in the event I had any type of misfortunes with my regular unit. Well lo and behold it had an IT Policy in place that did not allow me to load apps or get past password problems. I had searched and obtained blank policies from different people but was never successful. I found your thread this morning at work, downloaded the file and came home. I went to the site followed the easy steps and in about 9 minutes I had a 7250 free of policy bin that allowed me to load all apps I needed sans any password restrictions. I had given up on the backup idea a long time ago and relegated the spare 7250 to parts when and if needed. (Smiling ear to ear) Now I have the backup I intended thanks to you.

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In Options, Security you should see no policy when none is enabled. PM me with your email address and I will send you a default policy.bin you can try out.
Thanks barjohn for your assistance in this matter. The work that you guys do for the rest of us here is invaluable and I am sure not recognized by others for what it is a tremendous labor of love, I am sure that I speak for many others here when I say THANK YOU. I just hope that one day I am able to assist others in just a small part and possibly give back some of what I have received.
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You are welcome. I can understand your frustration as I have had similar issues in the past.
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