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Old 04-15-2012, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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anybody heard of this before? my bro has a bold 9700 on vodafone in the uk, the internet works but he does not have a blackberry data plan of any kind, only things that do not work are bbm+email, I'm guessing its some kind of glitch?
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It's likely a glitch. And he runs the risk of getting charged for data used. If the device used owned previously by someone else, the device might have the Service Books still on it which are allowing access.
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No usage has shown on his bill so far, looked at the service book list and there are two entries, one for tcp/ip, and one saying wap browser config. also host routing table list is empty so theoritically it should not work at all? It was previously on a BES so maybe the it policy disables viewing them or something, who knows.
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Regardless, if he's not paying for it, he shouldn't use it. If they find out, they will likely bill him.
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anybody heard of this before? my bro has a bold 9700 on vodafone in the uk, the internet works but he does not have a blackberry data plan of any kind, only things that do not work are bbm+email, I'm guessing its some kind of glitch?
Thats not a glitch, you need a BlackBerry dataplan to get email and BBM from RIMs servers.

generic plans will allow web access
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generic plans will allow web access
Not always, and normally you will not have browser access.
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Default Re: Working internet NO data plan.

That's correct. For BBM and BIS email require a dataplan.


But you can connect your device to a local accesspoint and you can use the browser to check your webmail (example, gmail/hotmail/yahoo).
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Default Re: Working internet NO data plan.

Assuming that you already have the WiFi Service Books.
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Or you can download pico or logicmail and use those as well, not sure how well they work though.
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No BBM no e-mail. Doesn't matter if BIS was setup or not.

You need a BlackBerry Data Plan.
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Default Re: Working internet (Email) NO data plan.

Finallly, I found a solution for that.
If your email supports pop3 and smpt protocols, this solution works for you.
It means if you can send and receive your emails by "outlook" in your computer you can do the same in your BB with this application, and it does not need obligatory data plan. It works with WIFI "Without data plan" too.
It doesn't need the third party server and send (and receives) your email directly.
The solution is "logicmail" application for BlackbBerry.
Go to "logicmail.org/ota/" by your BB browser and choose your suitable OS and install it.
You should enter the correct setting for "pop3" and "smtp".

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Finallly, I found a solution for that.
If your email supports pop3 and smpt protocols, this solution works for you.
It means if you can send and receive your emails by "outlook" in your computer you can do the same in your BB with this application, and it does not need obligatory data plan. It works with WIFI "Without data plan" too.
It doesn't need the third party server and send (and receives) your email directly.
The solution is "logicmail" application for BlackbBerry.
Go to "logicmail.org/ota/" by your BB browser and choose your suitable OS and install it.
You should enter the correct setting for "pop3" and "smtp".

Cheers
Should read thread before posting. Look two posts above yours.
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No BBM no e-mail. Doesn't matter if BIS was setup or not.

You need a BlackBerry Data Plan.
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I was told by an "o2 guru" yesterday that my contract does not need a data plan to use BBM ( he originally said I'd need a bolt-on, but then added I didn't need it for BBM): I only want BBM and don't need to use the internet so that would suit. Was that advice wrong - will I definitely need to have a DP - even a 100Mb allowance ?

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I was told by an "o2 guru" yesterday that my contract does not need a data plan to use BBM ( he originally said I'd need a bolt-on, but then added I didn't need it for BBM): I only want BBM and don't need to use the internet so that would suit. Was that advice wrong - will I definitely need to have a DP - even a 100Mb allowance ?

Thx
You MUST have a BlackBerry bolt-on to use BBM.
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