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Old 04-17-2006, 05:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Folks,

My Nextel 7520 has died and gone to BB Heaven. My Supervisor has asked that before I replace the 7520 with another 7520 to consider Verizon 7250 or Cingular 8700C.

Coverage appears to be equal in my trade area with all 3 providers. Given similar rate plans as I have now I can accomplish the following by changing:

I can save $50 per month with Cingular.
I can save $82 per month with Verizon.

I had Cingular 4 or 5 years ago but they were just changing to the GSM network and at that time coverage was very poor. I assume it has gotten better by now with the conversion of most if not all the towers.

Cingular has the not so new now 8700 but I am in a rural area (Central Illinois) and not sure I will be able to take advantage of the faster data speed out here. (I guess you tell me can I?)

Really don't know much about Verizon at all.

Any comment are appreciated!

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Old 04-17-2006, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It all depends on how much you use Nextel Direct Connect. If you use it a lot, then stick with Nextel. If not, I would go with the Cingular 8700c hands down, even if your only getting GPRS signal versus EDGE. If your a cheap bastard, like me, then go with Verizon. Also, see if you can get a Verizon 7130e instead of the 7250.
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Old 04-17-2006, 05:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't use Direct Connect as much any more. It really didn't work that well on the BB
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It also depends on what you need/prefer. I prefer CDMA technology. I find it(Verizon) works better in rual areas where I am (Florida). I find that Verizon works better inside my house. Cingular was hard to get a connection inside. I love verizon, and the 7130 is great. I saw a guy in the store today and he was on his cingular phone and was telling the guy on the other end "call me back later. You are breaking up". I never have that problem when I'm on my phone inside.
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not to cause any trouble D fisher with your recomendation, but if you can go with Verizon do it. EV DO is amazing! Edge, well I had Edge on my Treo w/ Cingular and I wasn't satisfied (some people say Edge works better on the BB)... Personally I stick with Verizon even though they don't have a 8700 type device yet because of EVDO If I'm going to pay 30 bucks a month I want the fast service I'm going to get! If you leave the country thats another story...
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It all depends on how much you use Nextel Direct Connect. If you use it a lot, then stick with Nextel. If not, I would go with the Cingular 8700c hands down, even if your only getting GPRS signal versus EDGE. If your a cheap bastard, like me, then go with Verizon. Also, see if you can get a Verizon 7130e instead of the 7250.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Why not wait until May 1st when the 7130 is available on Sprint?
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My take on is VZW. I am a GSM user to the core, which is why I stick with T-Mobile, but in terms of quality, VZW's network has Cing beat hands down IMHO. Not to mention the fact that Cingular has HORRIBLE customer service.

EDGE is fine, IMHO if you aren't tethering (and even for light tethering it's fine), but EV-Do is quicker.

I'm waiting for T-Mobile USA to upgrade to UMTS and get a UMTS blackberry, then I'll be happy!

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You need to first figure out who has better coverage in your area, where you will be using the device and where you travel. You said Central IL, but not exactly where. My guess is that Verizon's EVDO coverage doesn't extend there but Cingular's EDGE may, but you should look at the coverage maps to find out and talk to other Cingular and Verizon users. My guess is that Sprint would have poor coverage as they tend to stick to the metropolitan areas more often as does T-Moble.

IMHO, both Cingular and Verizon offer similar coverage in the same markets. Cingular's rates and plans tend to be a bit better than Verizon's. Customer service and tech support seem about the same as well - poor at best. The 8700c is the much better BB device at the moment.

We can all offer good and bad for any network, phone and carrier. My advice is to check with the various users in your area and look at the coverage maps. Just make sure you have coverage where you live, work, play and travel, then decide on the device. A little homework goes a long way.

BTW, I carry a Cingular 8700c and a Verizon E815.
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Listen to this man! I have a Verizon BB, but they have absolutely NO DATA COVERAGE IN Kansas or Oklahoma. Normally, those two states don't mean squat to me, but my in-laws are in OK and we go there quite a bit and I have two, at a minimum, big hunting trips to Kansas every year. As soon as I switch jobs, Verizon can kiss my arse because I can't be without coverage during those times if I am paying for it out of my pocket. For now, since work won't let me decide, I don't have much of a choice. When I have a choice, Verizon will NOT be that choice.

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You need to first figure out who has better coverage in your area, where you will be using the device and where you travel. You said Central IL, but not exactly where. My guess is that Verizon's EVDO coverage doesn't extend there but Cingular's EDGE may, but you should look at the coverage maps to find out and talk to other Cingular and Verizon users. My guess is that Sprint would have poor coverage as they tend to stick to the metropolitan areas more often as does T-Moble.

IMHO, both Cingular and Verizon offer similar coverage in the same markets. Cingular's rates and plans tend to be a bit better than Verizon's. Customer service and tech support seem about the same as well - poor at best. The 8700c is the much better BB device at the moment.

We can all offer good and bad for any network, phone and carrier. My advice is to check with the various users in your area and look at the coverage maps. Just make sure you have coverage where you live, work, play and travel, then decide on the device. A little homework goes a long way.

BTW, I carry a Cingular 8700c and a Verizon E815.
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Talking what would tony do?

The latest season of the Sopranos can shed some light on your question:

Tony Soprano was using a Cingular signal when his battery died while he was on his boat. Most likely from the phone searching for a Cingular signal and killing its own battery.

Vito Spatafore prefers the Verizon phone on long drive through New Hampshire, except when the guys keep calling him and he tosses it out the window. Vito also prefers leather chaps and leather hats. So I guess if you like those, you will like Verizon too.

So who do you wanna be: Tony or Vito?

Just kidding, I would go for the best coverage, because all customer service with all the carriers has the potential to really suck depending on who you get on the other end of the line. Coverage has to be the end all.
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I was a Cingular customer for 9 years. They were ok, but not great, until the AT&T takeover. They advertised "more bars in more places", but call quality suffered. Turns out they were not using both Cingular and AT&T towers, but picking and choosing. In my area, service went from ok to terrible. I switched to Verizon last August, and would never, ever again in my life use anyone else. Nextel, Sprint, and T-MOB are metro area only, Verizon in my experience wins hands down. No, the customer service is not great, but the cellular service and coverage are. I read someplace that a survey was done of flight attendants and pilots, people who travel all over the country, and depend on their cell phones as their only means of communication. Who did most of them prefer? Verizon.
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Ok, I don't post much at all and I'm a newbie on top of it. But I've had Verizon coverage for my cellie for years. Love them. Never had trouble. I travel all over the country for work and no problems. That's who I would stick with. That's my 2 cents for whatever that maybe worth.
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I have a Cingular BB and a Verizon BB. Hate to say it....the Verizon one has much less outages...connectivity issues...than Cingular.
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