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Old 04-22-2006, 03:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm depressed.

I tried the Tmobile MDA (actually the Imate K-Jam, but same-same) with WM5 and returned it.

I have tried for 2 days the BB8700g with BES (I'm the BES admin, nice to have that heh), but will probably return it. Here is why:

I think I've hosed myself by getting really comfortable with IMAP+IDLE while using fastmail & chatteremail on my Treo650. This is really a very awesome setup and I've just grown accustomed to how it works so that when I try something else it has to be able to do basically what a BES does, but with multiple accounts all coming into the one and being able to reply from them all.


Perhaps there is a way to do this with the BES and I'm just ignorant of it?

I have multiple email addresses that I would like to reply to others with. Also, when I reply, I would like all of these replies to all go into the same Sent Items folder so I can have one repository for them all. Additionally, like the BES, I would like to be able to file emails from my inbox to other folders, or be able to dig up emails from those stored folders if need be.

(The reason I was trying to dump my solution with the treo is because it doesn't replicate the contacts / tasks or notes as the BES does, so that would have been a large step forward, however w/o the mail doing as it does now, it wouldn't be feasible).

I'm hoping I'm just an ill-informed BB newb and that there is a way indeed to do this. All replies appreciated, even if you want to tell me that my Treo650 sucks.
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Old 04-22-2006, 03:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am not sure there is an elegant solution. Are you concerned about the "from" address? I think you either have to consolidate all of these going into the BES and the use bbReply to change the reply to address (but can't change the "from" address). Or use BIS. Right now TMobile has the best set up. Your "from" and "reply" will match the source email. Can't really access the BIS on the PC though so you are back to your separate accounts.
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Your best bet is to stick with the BlackBerry because I honestly do not think Treo can do what you're asking. Also, stay with BlackBerry Enterprise Server, and add the BlackBerry Internet Service (I use this) to have access to your personal email addresses.

With T-Mobile, when you create an email, you can choose what address the reply will be sent to. I have this setup using my AOL account. I can send out an email using my AOL account and no one knows I'm using a BlackBerry LOL. To do this,

1) Go to Message, Compose Email.
2) Highlight "Send Using" at the top of the page. It will say [Default].
3) Click on "Change Option."
4) Scroll to and click on the address you want to use.
5) Compose and send your email.

I think you can set up your corporate address to show that instead of your BlackBerry address when sending emails too.

You WILL need to keep your corporate account to synch your calendar, address book, notes, and tasks, and also for wireless synchronization and filing of your emails using a Microsoft Outlook, Lotus Notes or Novell Groupwise server or Hosted BES. This will allow you to file sent emails in the Sent Folder. Deleted items will show up in the Deleted folder, etc.

To see how to add your personal email, go to http://www.discoverblackberry.com, click on "Need Help?" in the top right corner of the screen, then choose either the 8700c or r "Getting Started" demo from the left side of the screen and watch the entire video to set up your BIS and BES email on the same device. Be sure T-Mobile allows setting up both options by calling them and asking before you try this.

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Old 04-22-2006, 05:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Completely off topic but The Bishop's avatar is giving me a case of deja vu.

Could it be??????????
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Completely off topic but The Bishop's avatar is giving me a case of deja vu.

Could it be??????????

That is what I am saying! I am getting flashbacks of when I had a treo...Which by the way - Sucked ;)

I would answer your questions Bishop, but I am trying to grasp what the heck we are talking about on this thread.
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I'm getting flashbacks because I think "The Bishop" is someone I know from somewhere else.
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Old 04-23-2006, 12:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Doh! I'm not Insertion. I just greedily snagged his Avatar from TreoCentral as it's a great one. Sorry about that.

Erica: the Treo does indeed allow for what I have right now. I use IMAP+IDLE and ChatterEmail and it's basically the same as BES's email portion (meaning that it's true "Push" and I can open/file/move messages throughout my entire account). However, what BES cannot do (I think which is why I was asking here) was to allow multiple accounts - this is a flaw of the email portion of the BB I think. Whereas ChatterEmail sees what address it's coming to and default selects that one that I can reply with (you can make as many as you want and use any/all when you see fit) with BB I cannot find a way (elegant or otherwise) to do this.

Here's what I see so far on the BB compared to what I have now on the evil Treo:


BES: PUSH feature (yes), Entire Account [subfolders to store emails outside of Inbox] (yes), Multiple accounts to be able to reply from (no).
* Also, is there a way for a BES to go pull email and put it into a certain folder? The best I can think of is to have the Exchange server (I'm the admin of both) go poll the POP3 side, pull it in and then set rules to put them there, I'm guessing that's the only way?

BIS: PUSH feature (no), Entire Account [subfolders to store emails outside of Inbox] (no), Multiple accounts to be able to reply from (yes).


Is this correct, or am I out on a limb? I've not used the BB outside of work where I have one email address and it's perfect for that (the BB is the best work tool I've seen yet), but when more email addresses are included in the mix with multiple accounts all going into one area, IMAP seems to win out over BES ... ?
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Old 04-23-2006, 07:25 AM   #8 (permalink)
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BIS: PUSH feature (no), Entire Account [subfolders to store emails outside of Inbox] (no), Multiple accounts to be able to reply from (yes).
BIS does push, it's just a question of of how you get it there. The most advanced right now for example is Yahoo and Tmobile. True push, but the only folders are Sent are Trash and Inbox that reconcile.
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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BIS does push, it's just a question of of how you get it there. The most advanced right now for example is Yahoo and Tmobile. True push, but the only folders are Sent are Trash and Inbox that reconcile.
Stinsonddog, I don't think the Sent folder w/Yahoo on T-mobile will reconcile with the BB. It does place a copy of email sent from the BB but deleting the Sent email (checkmark in message screen) does not delete it from the Sent folder on Yahoo. Just wanted to clarify that.
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Stinsonddog, I don't think the Sent folder w/Yahoo on T-mobile will reconcile with the BB. It does place a copy of email sent from the BB but deleting the Sent email (checkmark in message screen) does not delete it from the Sent folder on Yahoo. Just wanted to clarify that.
Agreed. I should be more specific.
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Ok, so I'm back for round two to see perhaps if THIS is possible as it's been a few months and I'm wondering if there is yet a way to do it ... ?

All I need is the ability to have IMAP+IDLE and multiple email addresses to use when replying to an email. That's really all ... is this doable on the BIS/BES or some other email software I could use?
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