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Old 05-13-2006, 07:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, I'm sure that this is simple, but I need some direction.

I would like to have two different emails address are being sent to my BB. Non BES, just forwarded to my BB email address. I would like to reply to each eamil account using that email address for that account. Is this possible?

I played around with my desktop email client software and in the end, sure I can have as many email accounts forward to my BB. But I can reply or send using that email address in return. It looks like it allows me to use one.

Can someone set me straight if I can reply to 2 different email accounts using different email address' and signatures? I found a product called BB Reply, not sure if that solves my problem. I'm sure that others are trying to do the same thing here.

BTW, I use Verizon and the 7250.

Thanks in advance for any direction on this.
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If you are forwarding your email to your BIS address you can only reply w/ your BIS addres...UNLESS you change the reply to address

Then you can reply using 1 of your addresses only - not both

For BIS 1.8 users only: If you have your 2 accounts added to the BlackBerry (not forwarding - but grabbing new messages every 15 mins) you again can only reply using 1 address

If you are using a carrier who has upgraded to BIS 2.0 (which verizon has): If you have your 2 accounts added to the BlackBerry (not forwarding - but grabbing new messages every 15 mins) you will be able to reply using either address as each address has it's own service book

Hope this helps
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Old 05-13-2006, 09:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow, telepathy. I was just wondering this. Thanks to you both. And no thanks to BIS!!
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If you are using a carrier who has upgraded to BIS 2.0 (which verizon has): If you have your 2 accounts added to the BlackBerry (not forwarding - but grabbing new messages every 15 mins) you will be able to reply using either address as each address has it's own service book
Could I, for example,

1. Set up two yahoo accounts (which seem to do push to the BB, due to a RIM/Yahoo agreement)
2. Set different "From" addresses on the BB for each account, which are NOT yahoo addresses, but from my own domains
3. Forward mail from my own domains to these yahoo accounts

... so I get

a. an end to end push solution
b. for multiple email addresses
c. and the rest of the world only ever sees my own domain names

?

If all that works, and I send a mail from my BB with the From address of one of my own domains, does this work "properly", or will recipents on Outlook, for example, see the mail as from

My Name <myaccount@yahoo.com> on behalf of <me@mydomainname.com>

This is what happens if you set a new "from" address using Google mail - and it's horrible.

On BIS 1.8, the 'From' address is altered properly, and I nonetheless don't hear of mails I send being trapped as spam or bounced, despite the "from" address not matching the (RIM) server the mail comes from.

Anyone know how BIS 2.0 works in this respect?

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i think in theory it will work...let me run a test
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Thanks BERDucky

Also

1. I've read that each email account set up on BIS 2.0 leads to a new desktop icon on your BB. Is all the incoming mail from all the accounts also consolidated in the old BB inbox, so I can use this instead of multiple "shortcuts" on my BB destop? I can then hide all those

2. When I want to compose a mail from my inbox do I get to select the account from which to send it, from a menu, like when currently selecting between the BIS or BES service when I have both set up on a device?

I don't have an option to migrate to BIS 2 yet, but soon, so I want to understand how it will affect me... :-|

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i think in theory it will work...let me run a test
Do you need a Yahoo Plus! to do all this, or is a standard Yahoo account ok?
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ok so i just masked my Yahoo! account to be another address and sent a test email. it arrives as if sent by Yahoo - so this option is not going to work; sorry

it's just a standard Yahoo account - don't have a Yahoo plus so can't test that out

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Thanks BERDucky

Also

1. I've read that each email account set up on BIS 2.0 leads to a new desktop icon on your BB. Is all the incoming mail from all the accounts also consolidated in the old BB inbox, so I can use this instead of multiple "shortcuts" on my BB destop? I can then hide all those

2. When I want to compose a mail from my inbox do I get to select the account from which to send it, from a menu, like when currently selecting between the BIS or BES service when I have both set up on a device?

I don't have an option to migrate to BIS 2 yet, but soon, so I want to understand how it will affect me... :-|
1) All of your email will always go to the main folder. If you don't want the multiple icons then hide them These show up only w/ IBS 2.0 AND 4.1 handheld code

2) Yes you get to choose what addres to send the message with. Same as if switching between BES and BIS you change the "send using" to the service book you want. With 2.0 it will show the as "email address [CMIME]"

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When composing (or replying to) an email, there is now a field above the To: field that says, "Send Using:", which displays the from address that has been default selected in your BB Options.

Clicking on the Send Using"" field allow you to change the email address on the fly (you can have up to 10 POP accounts, in addition to your BB's own email address).

Each additional email account you set up on your BB will have its own folder icon on the home screen. If you select one of those, composing with or replying from that account will default to that account's email address for the "Send Using" (unless, as above, you click on the "Send Using" field and change the desired address to be used. Very flexible.

Also, when your cursor is in the To or CC line, pushing any QWERTY key will bring up a temporary adress book list, enabling you to quickly select an address.

So far, my only ***** with the new OS is in the phone feature, which now requires extra steps to dial from the address box. What's up with that stupid move, RIM?

EDIT: BERDucky beat me to the punch. All your incoming mail, regarding of account, is displayed in the main "Messages" folder. All mail transactions, with all accounts, can be done within that folder, if you were to "hide" the folder icons for the additional email accounts (your option). Having the different folders keeps things somewhat better organized if using multiple email accounts. Whatever floats your boat...

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ok so i just masked my Yahoo! account to be another address and sent a test email. it arrives as if sent by Yahoo - so this option is not going to work; sorry

....

2) Yes you get to choose what addres to send the message with.
So choosing the address to send the message from with Yahoo doesn't really work, as your Yahoo account is always seen as your Yahoo account by recipents...

.. but presumably this ("masking") works for polled POP3 accounts as it does with BIS 1.8?

Today I have a single domain of my own, and with BIS 1.8 mail from my BB comes from a sigle adress i can specify. I forward mail from my domain to my BB's BIS 1.8 email address and set my "From" address to an address in my domain. All works as I want, nobody uses/sees my BB's email address by accident and it's all push end-to-end.

Seems like with BIS 2.0

- I can only get push with Yahoo. And with that I lose proper masking.

- Only other option is PULL from another POP3 account, but then I get masking that actually works, right?

So, even for a single account, if I want push AND masking I should stay with 1.8? Right? If so that sucks

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2.0 gives you the ability to write and answer emails with any "from" address you have set up in your BIS.
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2.0 gives you the ability to write and answer emails with any "from" address you have set up in your BIS.
BERDucky suggests he tried this with Yahoo (specifically) and mail still seemed to come from his Yahoo account

Have you had this work with Yahoo?

1. Have BIS 2.0 set up with [email address], but

2. Set the "from" address for THIS account to [email address]. Then

3. Mail you send on this account actually DOES seem to come from [email address] and does NOT obviously reveal the address [email address]?

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if you have 1 account you can forwad to your BIS address and change the "reply to"

now if you have more then 1 account and don't want to wait for the polling the following will work - but it's a bit convuluted

1) Add your accounts to your BlackBerry so you get the service book for each address
2) Set the defautl filter to NOT forward to the handheld for each account
3) Forward your email to your BIS address

Then when you compose new email you can use the address you want
If you want to reply to an email

1) choose to forward it
2) change the FW: in the subject to RE:
3) change the service book to the one you want to send it using

again a bit more work but it will do the job

currently Yahoo! (and accounts associated w/ Yahoo - like buisness Yahoo! accounts) is the only typ that polls instantly

If you have an Exchnge or Domino server you can use mail connectore which is also instant delivery
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3) Forward your email to your BIS address
So with BIS 2.0 you do still get a "BIS email address" for the BB you can push mail to that arrives at the BB instantly???
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So with BIS 2.0 you do still get a "BIS email address" for the BB you can push mail to that arrives at the BB instantly???
Yes.
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MAGIC!! Thanks Berry One, I think that will solve my issue...

Another question now:

Can I filter mail on BIS 2.0 so it can be received, but immediately marked as read on my BB? The application would be to BCC all mail I send from my desktop to my BB.

The filter needs to say "if the mail came from a specific address (me), put it in my BB inbox, but mark it as read and don't alert me".

This could thus emulate the sync sent items BES feature on the BIS...
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nope - fraid this isn't possible with 1.8 or 2.0 - filters will only send or stop email from going to your handheld or assigning email to "level 1 notification"

i suppose you could set up a filter for email from a certain address and set it to "level 1 notification"...then change this option in your profile so that if you get Level 1 messages to not vibrate (aka notify you) - but they would still be marked as unread

If you integrate an IMAP; exchange or domino account w/ 2.0 the wireless reconciliation will mark your messages as read/unread in your inbox; it will also put emails you sent from your handheld in your sent items folder and messages you delete from your handheld in your trash can

note this doesn't work w/ POP
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If I'm only worried about notification (and not read status) would setting up a 4.1 profile exception (for me, to the quiet profile) work for emails sent from me?
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i believe so yes - if you set up a filter to mark the messages as level 1; then set your level1 notificaitons on your handheld to silent instead of vibrate or tone you won't get notified when they're delivered

keep in mind i haven't tested this however i don't see why it wouldn't work
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One other thing on BIS 2.0, you can't manager folders on your BB. That is a big drawback for me. On my gmail/yahoo tips page, I discuss 2.0 and how it works compared to BES. I will be putting up the latest gmail filter this week.
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