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Old 05-15-2006, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been looking for a good way to keep up with my email without being controlled by it.

I already have two BBs: A 7290 for work and and 8700c for my personal life. (I must keep the two separate and I'm away from home a lot so I like having a BlackBerry for my personal email). Both are with Cingular.

I really like the 8700c. During the business day I keep the 7290 clipped on my belt and keep the 8700c in my brief case and check it a few times a day as my schedule permits. I like this but this also means calls on my 8700c go to voicemail. That's OK.

Evenings and weekends I carry the 8700c. This all well and good except that lately I find (especially on the weekend) that I don't like carrying a device on my belt. I have cargo shorts and slip the 8700 (without the holster) in the cargo pocket. But it is still thicker and heavier than I would like, especially when I walk places (I do a lot of walking). I've been thinking of getting a small and slim phone for this purpose (say a RAZR or a new and thin Samsung I saw at TMO) but that means another number and yet another expense or swapping SIM cards (which is kind of a pain).

I'd really appreciate comments and suggestions as well as the experiences of others.

I'd also like to cut my expenses if I can and wonder if TMO is as good as Cingular, especially in the Washington, DC area where I live. I'm concerned that TMO has a smaller coverage area.

Part of me wants to get a voice plan with Verizon Wireless as I think their call quality is better than Cingular.

I haven't made a decision yet about what to do and would really appreciate some feedback.
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My boss has TMobile, and wants to switch to Verizon. I was with Cingular for 9 years, and finally complained my way out of my contract, then went with Verizon. A 7130 with Verizon might be a compromise for you if it is strictly for personal usage (I have it as my one and only BB/phone), the smaller than pancake size does not make me miss smaller phones. Otherwise, play the swap sim card routine with a RAZR, you won't find much smaller of a phone.
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As a former samsung t509 and RAZR owner, I wholehartedly discourage either of these slim phones. This is how the story goes. Last week I picked up a Samsung t509 and thought "wow this is so small and it feels awesome in my pocket," so I bought it. I loved everything about that phone except one critical thing, its speaker volume was horrible and its vibrating alert wasnt much better. When people would call me I had to turn off the AC in my car and/or roll up my windows and press the phone against my ear to understand what they were saying. Yes, the volume was cranked up to max. So, I tried that phone for a couples days before returning it for a RAZR. To make a longer story short, I ended up returning it for the same reasons. Thus, I am here where I am now. I purchased a blackberry 8700g, which has the loudest speaker known to man and I couldnt be happier. The extra bells and whistles are a nice plus too! Good luck, I hope this information is of value to you.
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My boss has TMobile, and wants to switch to Verizon. I was with Cingular for 9 years, and finally complained my way out of my contract, then went with Verizon. A 7130 with Verizon might be a compromise for you if it is strictly for personal usage (I have it as my one and only BB/phone), the smaller than pancake size does not make me miss smaller phones. Otherwise, play the swap sim card routine with a RAZR, you won't find much smaller of a phone.
Thanks for your helpful response. How do you like the keyboard of the 7130? Do you miss a full qwerty keyboard?

I do travel abroad from time to time and like to keep up with my personal emails so I would like to keep a GSM BlackBerry.
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As a former samsung t509 and RAZR owner, I wholehartedly discourage either of these slim phones. This is how the story goes. Last week I picked up a Samsung t509 and thought "wow this is so small and it feels awesome in my pocket," so I bought it. I loved everything about that phone except one critical thing, its speaker volume was horrible and its vibrating alert wasnt much better. When people would call me I had to turn off the AC in my car and/or roll up my windows and press the phone against my ear to understand what they were saying. Yes, the volume was cranked up to max. So, I tried that phone for a couples days before returning it for a RAZR. To make a longer story short, I ended up returning it for the same reasons. Thus, I am here where I am now. I purchased a blackberry 8700g, which has the loudest speaker known to man and I couldnt be happier. The extra bells and whistles are a nice plus too! Good luck, I hope this information is of value to you.
Thanks for warning me about the low volume of the Samsung T509. I have an 8700c and the speaker is quite loud.
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Is there any problem with getting personal email and voice calls on the 7290 you have from work?
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Is there any problem with getting personal email and voice calls on the 7290 you have from work?
Radimus: My employer does not allow this. A small phone I could carry with me always would be a good option but that would mean another line. I'm still undecided. I've seen several folks here keep a separate phone for voice. Hate to sign another 2 year contract.
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Thanks for your helpful response. How do you like the keyboard of the 7130? Do you miss a full qwerty keyboard?

I do travel abroad from time to time and like to keep up with my personal emails so I would like to keep a GSM BlackBerry.
I was use to the full size keyboards of other BB (I went through various Cingular and Nextel models over a years time between personal and work accounts), and the transition to the 7130 is almost seamless. You type with your thumbs just like you would with the full size keyboard, and 95% of the time, Suretype gets it right. The trade off is worth it, in my book, I answer an average of 40-60 emails a day on it, and have been for a month and a half now. Something of the 7130 size was what I wanted years ago, and now that I have it, don't plan on going back. I am going on vacation in a few days, and will be away from a computer for 6 days, and will use just the 7130 to keep up with work and personal email (Yahoo, for the record). I have gone two days at a time previously in the last few weeks without getting to a computer, and have been able to function just fine with the 7130 (the web browser is decent as well). I don't miss the full size keyboard at all, nor do I miss the full size BB. The smaller profile is about perfect in my book.
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the GSM 7130 should be rolling through pretty soon!
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the GSM 7130 should be rolling through pretty soon!
Is the 7130 different than the Suretype BBs that Cingular and TMO sell? Look about the same from the photo but I can't be sure.
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Is the 7130 different than the Suretype BBs that Cingular and TMO sell? Look about the same from the photo but I can't be sure.
Yes, all the 7130's will be Suretype units like the 7100.
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The software for suretype is a little better. My brother had a 7130 *CDMA version* this weekend along with some other cool toys, and I had a chance to try out the suretype. the more you use it the better it gets, and the upgrades in suretype on the 7130 have made it even better supposidly?
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Radimus: My employer does not allow this. A small phone I could carry with me always would be a good option but that would mean another line. I'm still undecided. I've seen several folks here keep a separate phone for voice. Hate to sign another 2 year contract.
Some ideas off the top of my head:
- Get an unlocked GSM phone, swap your 8700c's SIM into that, and drop the BB and data plans from your account. Set up the account with a generous SMS package and set your email account to forward to it. Or get an email-capable phone and keep a data plan of some kind without the BB service. One problem with this is that the changes might reset your contract.
- Is your personal voice usage too great to consider a prepaid plan? There are no prepaid data plans that I'm aware of, though, other than T-Mo's prepaid plan for the Sidekick. However, this gets you around having to sign a contract.
- Get a cheap prepaid phone for the weekends, and set up your 8700'c voice line to forward to it. This doesn't cut expenses though.
- Does your employer have the BB Browser enabled and allow you to surf the web with it? If so, can you do this for personal reasons? If so, set up a Gmail account, configure it to grab mail from your personal account or set your personal account to forward to Gmail, and read that mail via Gmail's web interface through the BB Browser.
- Just deal with the current situation until your contract is up, then do whatever once your month-to-month.
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Some ideas off the top of my head:
- Get an unlocked GSM phone, swap your 8700c's SIM into that, and drop the BB and data plans from your account. Set up the account with a generous SMS package and set your email account to forward to it. Or get an email-capable phone and keep a data plan of some kind without the BB service. One problem with this is that the changes might reset your contract.
- Is your personal voice usage too great to consider a prepaid plan? There are no prepaid data plans that I'm aware of, though, other than T-Mo's prepaid plan for the Sidekick. However, this gets you around having to sign a contract.
- Get a cheap prepaid phone for the weekends, and set up your 8700'c voice line to forward to it. This doesn't cut expenses though.
- Does your employer have the BB Browser enabled and allow you to surf the web with it? If so, can you do this for personal reasons? If so, set up a Gmail account, configure it to grab mail from your personal account or set your personal account to forward to Gmail, and read that mail via Gmail's web interface through the BB Browser.
- Just deal with the current situation until your contract is up, then do whatever once your month-to-month.
Thank you radimus. You did a nice job outlining my options, including some I never thought of. I am leaning towards a separate mobile phone (probably a RAZR - I want it to be thin) and a second line. I would then forward calls to it and use the BlackBerry primarily for the email. This is more expensive but it may be what fits my life best at the moment. The RAZR does not seem like a great phone but I can slide it in my pocket. Thanks again for your helpful post.
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- Get a cheap prepaid phone for the weekends, and set up your 8700'c voice line to forward to it. This doesn't cut expenses though.
I'm doing this to keep from adding more costs to my BB plan because I don't use a lot of minutes. I just want a phone I can use for voice.
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Thank you radimus. You did a nice job outlining my options, including some I never thought of. I am leaning towards a separate mobile phone (probably a RAZR - I want it to be thin) and a second line. I would then forward calls to it and use the BlackBerry primarily for the email. This is more expensive but it may be what fits my life best at the moment. The RAZR does not seem like a great phone but I can slide it in my pocket. Thanks again for your helpful post.
How about just getting an unlocked RAZR (or a locked one without a contract), and just swap the SIM from your personal BB when you want the slim phone -- might end up being cheaper than 2 voice subscriptions...
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I have to agree with radimus, if you don't use the 8700c for so much email, then just check it through a web interface. I have a few friends that jumped on the RAZR bandwagon right away, and are very dissapointed with the quality of the phone for calls. They are all heavy voice plan users. One friend has even taken her RAZR back so many times that she's on her third replacement (and I don't think she's especially rough on the phone).

As far as size, have you ever held a RAZR right next to the 8700? I know they are marketed as being "so thin", but I was surprised. When the phone is closed, it's not that much smaller than the 8700, and when it's open, it's much taller. The weight is also close. If what you want is really a smaller phone, then go for one that's significantly smaller, and compare side by side.

I got spoiled by the quality of my 8700 and had a treo as a personal cell phone. I'm planning on getting rid of my treo so that I can carry something smaller on the weekends. I bought a motorola v557 (just my pref cause I wanted a camera and bluetooth). I'm impressed with the speaker quality, and I don't find myself having to turn it up all the time. In fact, people tell me that they have to turn their phones down that it comes through so loud.

Lots of people struggle with this dilemma, but I'd go with checking email through a mobile browser, and getting a GOOD phone that will really be significantly smaller.
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I have to agree with radimus, if you don't use the 8700c for so much email, then just check it through a web interface. I have a few friends that jumped on the RAZR bandwagon right away, and are very dissapointed with the quality of the phone for calls. They are all heavy voice plan users. One friend has even taken her RAZR back so many times that she's on her third replacement (and I don't think she's especially rough on the phone).

As far as size, have you ever held a RAZR right next to the 8700? I know they are marketed as being "so thin", but I was surprised. When the phone is closed, it's not that much smaller than the 8700, and when it's open, it's much taller. The weight is also close. If what you want is really a smaller phone, then go for one that's significantly smaller, and compare side by side.

I got spoiled by the quality of my 8700 and had a treo as a personal cell phone. I'm planning on getting rid of my treo so that I can carry something smaller on the weekends. I bought a motorola v557 (just my pref cause I wanted a camera and bluetooth). I'm impressed with the speaker quality, and I don't find myself having to turn it up all the time. In fact, people tell me that they have to turn their phones down that it comes through so loud.

Lots of people struggle with this dilemma, but I'd go with checking email through a mobile browser, and getting a GOOD phone that will really be significantly smaller.

Thank you for your very helpful post. I will check out the motorola v557. Who is your service with? I doubt I could go back to checking emails via a web interface after having a BB. I probably want a small mobile phone and a BB. The BB can be like my laptop.

Thanks again!
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Thank you radimus. You did a nice job outlining my options, including some I never thought of. I am leaning towards a separate mobile phone (probably a RAZR - I want it to be thin) and a second line. I would then forward calls to it and use the BlackBerry primarily for the email. This is more expensive but it may be what fits my life best at the moment. The RAZR does not seem like a great phone but I can slide it in my pocket. Thanks again for your helpful post.
Adding a line to your BB's account that will share the voice minutes will probably run around $10/month. With Cingular if you set up the voice phone on a seperate account, drop the voice service off the BB, then you'll pay an extra $5/month for the BB unlimited plan and nothing different for the voice service. The phone could ride in your briefcase with the ringer off.

Regarding the V557 the reviews I've read on it have been good. Cingular offers that phone.
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Thank you for your very helpful post. I will check out the motorola v557. Who is your service with? I doubt I could go back to checking emails via a web interface after having a BB. I probably want a small mobile phone and a BB. The BB can be like my laptop.

Thanks again!
My service is with Cingular, and I don't have any problems. I'm loving having a smaller phone, but when it comes to text messaging my friends, I hate going back to a keypad instead of a full keyboard. It's not that big of a deal though.

Here's a suggestion tho...if you want to keep your personal emails coming in on a smaller phone, why don't you look into an email to SMS service. I don't use one, so I can't recommend, but I'm sure there has to be a worthy service out there that can pop your emails to SMS and send them to your phone. Get a beefy text message package (a heck of a lot cheaper than a data package, I think Cingular's is about $20 a month for unlimited vs. $40 for unlimited data).

If you are like me, you enjoy getting your emails delivered to you instantly, but I don't often have to respond immediately. Then if you ever do have the need to respond with a longer message, maybe you can log in via the interface on your blackberry and type away...Just a thought.

Oh yeah, and the switching sim cards I think is also a very good idea...You could keep your 8700 for when you WANT the ease of the email and such, but let's say you're going out for a night on the town, and only really want a phone...pop the sim card in and off you go. Yeah, it may cost more up front to get the phone, but it's probly cheaper and easier in the long run.

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