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Old 05-23-2006, 09:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Looks like this is my only option right now.. Does anyone have a blackberry that isnt connected to a BES? Is it worth it?

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like this is my only option right now.. Does anyone have a blackberry that isnt connected to a BES? Is it worth it?

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i do, it depends on what you intend on doing with the bb, i use it for my email and messenger with the bis, it works for me.
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Same here. I just feel screwed with the price I am paying with Cingular for my plan.
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up until now, I have been using it for exchange e-mail only(work) and google mail. I can live with out the lookup option.. and I assume that people will recognize a non corporate e-mail address that is VERY similar to the one they usually see..

With all of the hassle of getting this thing setup again, i think it makes sense to just use BIS. I guess if necessary I can always just go back..
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up until now, I have been using it for exchange e-mail only(work) and google mail. I can live with out the lookup option.. and I assume that people will recognize a non corporate e-mail address that is VERY similar to the one they usually see..

With all of the hassle of getting this thing setup again, i think it makes sense to just use BIS. I guess if necessary I can always just go back..
Here is what works for me - In BIS, set the "reply-to" address for your carrier.blackberry.net address to your corporate e-mail address. Also set up a rule in Outlook to forward all of your corporate e-mail to your carrier.blackberry.net address. Doing this will allow you to respond and send messages from your corporate address using your carrier.blackberry.net address. All of this is assuming you are on BIS 2.0. If you are on BIS 1.8, you can still set up the rule in Outlook, but you will have to go into BIS to set the "sent from" address to your corporate e-mail address (or any other address you want to come through as your "sent from" address).
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If this is your personal BB (and I believe it is otherwise it would not make sense) I woul dmake extremely sure that the IT Policy on it is removed when you ask to be taken off. Make sure you test before it is taken out altogether to ensure functionality is back one hundred percent. Things like third party software installation, no need for passwords every so many minutes, bluetooth capability. Those can all be restricted by IT Polociy, and once you are off the BES it can never be restored. Now it may be company policy that none of that can be restored while you are connected to the BES so you may be on a catch 22 situation. This is the number one reason why a personal BB should never be placed on a company BES.
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Ive taken BBeries off BES before with out any problems at all. You can take the device off by wiping it clean (options -> security) and then replacing the policy file using the desktop software. It should take no more than 3 minutes to do that.

The good news is that my company agreed to put me back on the BES!


Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I will keep hold of it as im sure it will come in handy sooner or later.

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Old 05-23-2006, 01:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree in principle but the IT Policy removal that has been discussed here will not reinstate the bluetooth if it was prevented by the policy trust me I know it happened to me.

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Ive taken BBeries off BES before with out any problems at all. You can take the device off by wiping it clean (options -> security) and then replacing the policy file using the desktop software. It should take no more than 3 minutes to do that.

The good news is that my company agreed to put me back on the BES!


Thanks for all of the advice everyone. I will keep hold of it as im sure it will come in handy sooner or later.

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I've gone into my internet mail setup. I'm using t-mobile and BIS. i'm in the area where i can set my username/password for my email information, and i do see it say "signature: sent frm my blackberryr wireless handheld" however no where there does it allow me to change it even in the advanced settings.

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm in the same boat.

I've been using administrating a BES w/ Exchange since v2.6. I am now in the process of leaving that place of employment and replacing my company supplied Nextel 7100i w/ a new personal Cingular 8700c. However, no more BES.

I do manage my own email through my web host and thus would prefer to keep that as my primary address. What are my options?

As for what I use my BB for, pretty much everything; email, calendar, chat, etc. Even as a systems administrator I never liked regular PDA's, but I've always loved my BB.
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If it was a cost issue, BES 4.1 is being offered free for one user who has purchased a BlackBerry handheld.
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No BES here, and completely worth every penny. The e-mail is top-notch. Everything else is excellent as well.
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Same here, outstanding capabilities even w/out BES. Thank goodness RIM had the foresight to think of BIS!

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No BES here, and completely worth every penny. The e-mail is top-notch. Everything else is excellent as well.
So are you using the PC client to synch your calender/contacts w/ Outlook?
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May be a dumb question, but isn't BIS essentially just a BES that is hosted by the Carrier?
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May be a dumb question, but isn't BIS essentially just a BES that is hosted by the Carrier?
Wish that were true. The BIS does not sync all folders, calendar, tasks, etc.
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Wish that were true. The BIS does not sync all folders, calendar, tasks, etc.
I was aware that the BB did not sync Folders other than Outlook's Inbox, but I was NOT aware it did not sync calendar, Tasks, etc. Surely that must be a mistake. I am awaiting delivery of my new 8700r, but I bought it thinking it at least synced over one's Calendar, tasks, appt's, etc. from Outlook.

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Old 05-26-2006, 08:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Here you go...

You sync calendar, notes, tasks and contacts via the included Intellisync software that comes with the Desktop Manager software on the CD with the BB...
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How do I get this?!


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If it was a cost issue, BES 4.1 is being offered free for one user who has purchased a BlackBerry handheld.
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