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Old 09-08-2004, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I dont know if any of you missed it, but here are the pictures of both devices.

Personally I ilike the 7100v MUCH better.

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Old 09-08-2004, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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(NOTE: Photographs above are NOT to scale to each other!)

It is reported that the predictive text on these are unusually accurate. There are several explanations:

(1) No learning curve. It's a twist on standard QWERTY. Dedicated spacebar too! Dedicated backspace too!
(2) Predicting on 2 keys instead of 3 keys makes it pretty error-proof. Just type normally and the vast majority of time, your words will be correct.
(3) Excellent learning software that learns your typing patterns. For example, it will learn my unusual last name "Rejhon" if you've typed it at least once before, and will predict it immediately next time you type the first few letters of the word.
(4) It is reported VERY EASY to correct predictive errors (unlike T9)

I will stick with the 10-key-wide keyboards, but I can definitely 'adapt' to this type of keypad if I had to -- it is FAR more comfortable than T9 -- would probably be typing fast on these Charms in no time. I want RIM to keep releasing 10-keys-wide BlackBerry models, however, these phones definitely have a market!
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One thing that still surprises me with the 7100t, they didn't increase the size of the green and red buttons, why waste that extra space when you could have made those buttons more comfortable to use.

As far as no learning curve, that will be a bit of hyperbole since it is different from normal texting or a full qwerty keyboard.

On the subject of learning names, as long as you had yourself or somebody with that surname in your addressbook then it should already know the name as that is one of the sources that the predictive text can use for prediction.
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>>Is far as no learning curve, that will be a bit of hyperbole since it is different from normal texting or a full qwerty keyboard.

Well, maybe an exaggeration, but it has the same learning curve insofar as using a QWERTY thumb board for the first time, compared to the learning curve of doing T9 for the first time.

i.e. Much, much, much shorter than T9 :D Essentially, nearly no learning curve differential between using a QWERTY thumbboard for the first time versus this format for the first time. (relative to the learning curve of T9)
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I don't agree, the learning curve is definitely better than t9 but its closer to that than to a qwerty thumb board.
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Skive -- I'm curious why you think that it's closer to T9...after all, the key layout is QWERTY - can't you just close your eyes and pretend it's a 7230?
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I placed a few pictures of the 7100t and 7100v in the Album section. I resized the two images at the top of this thread so that you can see the devices is the same scale (I think).
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Skive -- I'm curious why you think that it's closer to T9...after all, the key layout is QWERTY - can't you just close your eyes and pretend it's a 7230?
Closer to t9 in learning curve not useage, with a full qwerty thumb board anyone is able to use it ok within minutes, whereas this seems to take people a day or two to get fully up to speed with it.

One possible reason why this is the case might be that people are so used to texting nowadays on a phone and are subconsciously expecting to text like this is a phone as well
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I placed a few pictures of the 7100t and 7100v in the Album section. I resized the two images at the top of this thread so that you can see the devices is the same scale (I think).
Those first two pics look about right with the 7100t being ever so slightly longer due to that odd bit at the bottom.
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>>I don't agree, the learning curve is definitely better than t9 but its closer to that than to a qwerty thumb board.

Time will tell. I air-typed on the keyboard on the 7100 photo and had no problems picking up speed.

Within about 30 seconds I was pretend airtyping on the 7100 image fairly quickly. Probably a little over 50% as fast as my 7280. But it does have an advantage that I am already familiar with thumbboards. However, it shouldn't take long for someone to get up to speed on this board, assuming someone is fully muscle-memorized on QWERTY (i.e. touchtypist), the 7100 has a learning curve much closer to QWERTY than T9.

Obviously, you'd be right, if someone is a firsttimer peek-and-poke typist that has never used a computer or have infrequently used a computer in their first year, yes, the learning curve is closer to T9 than QWERTY. Perhaps I should have been more clear in this department.

BTW, I've never used T9. (Okay, I've tried a few times but gave up on it).
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