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Old 06-13-2006, 05:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My company has a policy of diabling the hardware in Device Manager, not putting any RIM software on the desktop, relying on XP to recognise the RIM hardware, and plugging the USB charger in. 2 have recently been discharging rather than charging. Would this work or is there a separate driver we can use to charge them?
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From your Some what cryptic message I am assuming you are asking if you can chare your Blackberry from a computer WITHOUT having desktop manager installed. You can I do this all of the time on machines with windows 2000+, the OS should find it and recognize it but will say it is an unknown device. But your comment on xxx8220;disabling the hardware in Device Managerxxx8221; if your USB ports are disabled then they wont charge. Then your best solution would be just use the wall charger, most companies I know (Even the CRAZY one I work for) donxxx8217;t have an issue with you plugging stuff like a Blackberry to charge from a wall outlet.
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It was the device that was disabled, not the USB port.
No RIM software installed
Relying on XP to pick up the device (it recognises it as a RIM device)
The lightning symbol is on, suggesting it is charging. However, it isn't charging.
My suspicions are with the RIM device disabled, it won't charge, but i am told it will.
The problem i have is i have set it up as per instructions but it will not charge.
All users have chargers but humans being humans they a) don't take them if they have the laptop and b) don't think about taking European adaptors when leaving the UK so chargers won't work anyway.
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If you see the charge icon, it should be charging. Try a different battery ?
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We have the same problem here (WinXP SP2). You just need to install the RIMUSBNT.inf driver and they will charge fine. This driver should be on the original CD.
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It has been my experience as a BES administrator that if Desktop Manager isn't install (including the RIM device driver for the handheld) that you won't get charging via USB. I recognize that all computers and circumstances are different. BUt based on the premise in the original post, no it is not possible to charge a BB via USB with the RIM Device driver included with Desktop Manager.
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No Sean, the lightning symbol means the cable is connected, not that it is charging. 99.99% of the time it will be charging, but the symbol comes on when the machine is not charging ie when the drivers are not loaded but the connection is made. I believe this is due to the 100mA trickle charge when the drivers are not on not covering the current discharge when the Bberry is switched on. My client's has discharged 10% in the past hour with this symbol clearly shown.
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Several months - maybe more than a year ago a Windows XP (SP2) update was realeased that effectively disables charging a bb without the desktop manager installed. It appears to be charging - lightening bolt is present but after a while it is obvious that the device is not charging but the battery is draining.
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No Sean, the lightning symbol means the cable is connected, not that it is charging. 99.99% of the time it will be charging, but the symbol comes on when the machine is not charging ie when the drivers are not loaded but the connection is made. I believe this is due to the 100mA trickle charge when the drivers are not on not covering the current discharge when the Bberry is switched on. My client's has discharged 10% in the past hour with this symbol clearly shown.
Color me dense, but the lightening symbol shuts off, and I was assuming this means the battery is fully charged (just as when it's plugged into the wall). Am I mistaken?
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