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Old 06-18-2006, 10:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone! With all the talk of the 8707v, I'm wondering what people think of 3G BB's. While I know that downloading attachments is much faster on WCDMA vs. EDGE, will BB's really take advantage of the advanced wireless? FOr me 3G isn't all that big of a deal right now. I'm not video calling people, I can't really upload things from my BB and downloading really isn't a big deal as most attachments aren't MBs in size but KB. Does the Law of Dimishing Returns apply to high speed wireless? Do we need 3G BBs (yet)?
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm sure the hard core phone junkies would disagree, but I do not see the value of the faster networks for the BlackBerry. Doing videoconferencing and watching videos on a tiny screen is not something I need to do, nor have any of our customers asked about it. The carriers will push the technology in order to sell more services. I saw a 3G demo about 5 years ago that showed awful 2 way video conferencing within Japan. Didn't exactly blow us away.

Web browsing is great on EDGE and EVDO and will be even better on UMTS, but that is only the tertiary reason we use BlackBerrys, after secure e-mail, and decent voice.

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I tend to agree. Web browsing and tethering are the only real advantages for 2.75G and 3G technologies in BlackBerry devices. Obviously though, this means that the providers must allow users to take advantages of those services.
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Won't UMTS allow you to have a simultaneous voice and data call? I'd ditch my aircard if my tethered BB could do both simultaneously. That would be $720/year saved, which is nothing to sneeze at. Provided the devices aren't crippled, this could be a big selling point.
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A very interesting point. Hard to believe the mobile carriers haven't thought of that too - and would not be pleased at the loss of revenue. I'd be more than happy not to pay for high speed data in addition to the BB monthly fee.

Of course, they may charge $60 for unlimited UMTS data, so there go the cost savings.
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I wonder if any Vodafone folks have had an experience with this yet. Can you tether an 8707 and also be on the phone, and does the tether data transfer go towards your BB unlimited data?
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I have tried, but I cannot get it to respond when tethered although it does connect and I have not had the time to call Vodafone to spend a few days searching for the most likely one person out of thousands who may be able to help.

Let me try it quick while on the phone and see if it atleasts connects....

Well it dialied out to connect just fine while I was on the phone, so I would assume it would work if I could get the tethered modem to work.

One thing it will not do is receive e-mail while connected as a modem (RIM has a KB article out on that).
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Unfortunately UMTS alone does not support simultaneous voice/data. HSPDA is required. Most carriers are launching with the HSPDA enhancement.

If I were an EDGE Blackberry user, I'd likely stay with it rather than go UMTS. And this due to the decrease in battery life that UMTS users will notice...

However, 3G is great for tethering....

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Unfortunately UMTS does not support simultaneous voice/data.

Our best hope is EVDO Rev. A. And only if the carriers go with VOIP on REV A.
You mean UMTS (so far) on the 8707, or?
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You mean UMTS (so far) on the 8707, or?
UMTS the technology. With HSPDA, simultaneous voice/data is possible.

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