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Old 06-20-2006, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Noobish POP question!

I've been on the fence on rejoining the BB family. I've been considering the 7130c with Cingular and having it POP my Yahoo Plus mail. Yes, I know there are currently issues with the BB/Cingular/Yahoo "instant" thing, and that POP'ing seems to be the only way at the moment (aside from fwd'ing directly).

I can live with POP polling (1-15 min). But what about the times when you want to manually check your inbox? Is there the equivalent of a "Check Mail" menu function where it'll peek at the inbox and retrieve mail?

Or, are you stuck with sitting and waiting for the next polling interval?

Heck, even my Nokia 6230b could "Check Mail" if I told it to!
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Unfortunately not, core feature of email on the BB is the "always on" push it offers. Suggestion would be to get a GMail account have it collect you POP mail and archive so you can retrieve with your mail client and setup forwarding withing GMail to send a copy of messages to you BB address [email address] and that way all mail will arrive within seconds of being received.
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Yeah, but does your Nokia have an Enteprise Server package available? Didn't think so! We have a "reconcile now" option for BES users. It does what you ask.
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I agree with the GMail filters to forward mail. I've tried that and it works well. About the only thing I wish it did was wirelessly reconcile email in both directions and reconcile Calendar and address book entries. Oh wait, that's BES server. hehe.

The Gmail filters are great. Look for the thread in the general forum.
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Yes, yes, I know my little Nokia is just a lowly little POP app.

And I know about the gmail fwd and "keep a copy" feature. I had thought about that. I have to educate myself abou the gmail filters for spam.

I don't need calendar or address sync. Just mail. Thanks for the tips.
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It is unfortunate that you are apparently stuck on Cingular. The new Yahoo integration works great. I especially like that when I delete a Yahoo email on my Blackberry I have it set to prompt me on whether I also want to delete it on Yahoo. That way Yahoo only keeps the emails I want to archive.
I used to use the MailPlus autoforward option with a BCC from my Blackberry to my work account but that's far from ideal. It's really a bit of a burn that we pay for MailPlus to aoutoforward and we still can't choose to keep a copy on Yahoo webmail.
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Wow... so the totally integrated Yahoo/BB actually asks you "Delete on Yahoo"? That's incredible.

I must now debate if I really want the 7130c (I'm uber picky about audio quality and the 8700's dust stories spooked me) and if I want to poll/POP Yahoo, or autofoward from Yahoo Plus Mail > spamfilter or Gmail > BB.

...Or just get the darn thing and maybe one day Cingular will get their Yahoo integration in order.
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The Yahoo integration is indeed very good. Just to provide full disclosure, the 'delete on mailbox and handheld' feature only works on incoming emails to Yahoo; it does not work for your Sent emails. All Sent emails are archived in your Yahoo Sent folder until you delete them from there. Not a big issue but now you know.
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The Yahoo integration is indeed very good. Just to provide full disclosure, the 'delete on mailbox and handheld' feature only works on incoming emails to Yahoo; it does not work for your Sent emails. All Sent emails are archived in your Yahoo Sent folder until you delete them from there. Not a big issue but now you know.
Hi,

I have YahooPlus and just got BIS 2.0 today. When I delete on the bb, it deletes from the Yahoo inbox, too -- great feature. But, unlike the poster above, it will not save my sent e-mails in the Yahoo Sent folder.

Any suggestions?

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Is there any indication that Cingular plans to get the Yahoo Plus Mail fully integrated and working (full Push, not just POP) to catch up to everyone else?
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Hi,

I have YahooPlus and just got BIS 2.0 today. When I delete on the bb, it deletes from the Yahoo inbox, too -- great feature. But, unlike the poster above, it will not save my sent e-mails in the Yahoo Sent folder.

Any suggestions?

Larry
Are you on Cingular? If so, it's POP3 access and you won't get a copy in the Sent folder. That only happens with the full integration which Cingular does not currently implement.
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Wow... so the totally integrated Yahoo/BB actually asks you "Delete on Yahoo"? That's incredible.

I must now debate if I really want the 7130c (I'm uber picky about audio quality and the 8700's dust stories spooked me) and if I want to poll/POP Yahoo, or autofoward from Yahoo Plus Mail > spamfilter or Gmail > BB.

...Or just get the darn thing and maybe one day Cingular will get their Yahoo integration in order.
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Cingular's BIS 2 implementation is NOT a full implementation. What you delete on your BB will NOT be deleted from your Yahoo account.

Also, I JUST found out today that with Polling, you can avoid getting emails sent to your Bulk folder under the POP Access and Forwarding settings. With POP Access, you can specify NOT to receive messages arriving in the Bulk folder (I had been looking in the Spamguard settings!).

That said, I do NOT know what happens with Forwarding. You could set Yahoo to simply forward emails to your cingular.blackberry.net email address, and get your Yahoo email almost instantly. If you do this, you want to set your BIS setup to NOT forward to your device (you have it set up so you can send from the yahoo account on your BB).

As for the 7130/8700 issue, all you can do is wait and see if audio issues turn up with the 7130 as it did for the 7100/7105. I had to abandon a perfectly good 7100 because the audio was so BAD I could not be understood on the other end of the line - even on calls to land lines! I have NOT had that problem with the 8700, and if you search the forums you'll see the dust issue has been resolved. Just don't get a reconditioned device - get a new one. If you're willing to use a different Cell number, Amazon has a deal where you get a new 8700 for around $50 with a NEW 2 year contract.
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