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Old 06-26-2006, 01:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So ok here is the dealio....I ran over my blackberry today. Yeah great way to start off the day. Anyways here is my backround. Currently twenty and rolled with a palm pilot (of varying models) since 9th grade. In january of 06 I got a 7130e and fell in love. Now its just a everyday meh, yeah and today I rolled over it. I have insurance so my new one will be here tuesday.....I work for vzw and so I play with em all along with selling them. What are ppl's opinion on the treo 700p?

Don't flame me I am just investigating new toys for I am bored with my current array. I would never get the 700w for its a piece as well as the q. I used to run palm os and loved it back when I had palm pilots. So I ask, what do ya'll think? I know I could get a lot more games and such...but I will have to buy it out at full retail......just lookin for opinions since I respect all my fellow bb bretheren.

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Old 06-26-2006, 01:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry you ran over your BB - saw the other thread.

All depends on what you want and need. If you want and need really good e-mail, then stick with the BB. If you need more games, etc. then get something running the Palm OS.

My wife was a lifelong Palm user. Switched to the 7100t about 18 months ago. Misses the good eBook readers and some of the games, but relies on the Magmic games to get by. Loves the e-mail.

I got an MDA (WM5) and my Q should be here later today. But my BB is my lifeline...

Of course I'm going to say get a BlackBerry, but what do you need??
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I haven't used Palm devices before, but I have used Windows Mobile devices and I can tell you I had the same crashing problems with those that people have reported with Palm devices. I had fun with the games and some apps that were available, but the other functions were less than desirable.

I rely on the organizer features and constant email function of the BlackBerry so I would suggest staying with the BlackBerry, and if you still have cash laying around, get a second device for the games.

And for the ebook reader, try Mobipocket Reader. It works. I just haven't found any free ebooks worth reading yet.
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Of course you should. How else is one to fully understand the nuances, differences between the platforms without first-hand experience? I will have the opportunity to tweak with a 700p for the first time in about a week. Yay!
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In january of 06 I got a 7130e and fell in love. Now its just a everyday meh, yeah and today
This reminds me to my happy times with my Psion 5 mx PRO handheld (who else can remember these genious handhelds made in Britain?). I have really been addicted to my trusty companion.

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For email, BB is tops. As an organizer or game machine, Palm or Pocket PC is better. As a phone, haven't used anthing but the 8700 as a phone. Its ok, not great and from what I have read is better than Treo.
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I'd say at least give it a try. Up until recently I was a huge Sidekick user. For work though I needed better access to Exchange so I tried out the MDA. I found I couldn't stand Windows Mobile and so I switched to an 8700g. I liked the thing so much I switched it to being my primary cell and tossed the SK in a drawer (Though I miss its keyboard).

I've heard the 700p is rather nice. The mail client bundled with it can do ActiveSync with Exchange, supposedly, if you need that feature.
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well the moto Q looks real cool. i was watching some videos on it on youtube. it has nice features. i would get it but i am staying with nextel forever. so i am going with a bb 7100i.
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No, stay with Blackberry -- what other answer do you expect to find on a Blackberry forum?

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So ok here is the dealio....I ran over my blackberry today. Yeah great way to start off the day. Anyways here is my backround. Currently twenty and rolled with a palm pilot (of varying models) since 9th grade. In january of 06 I got a 7130e and fell in love. Now its just a everyday meh, yeah and today I rolled over it. I have insurance so my new one will be here tuesday.....I work for vzw and so I play with em all along with selling them. What are ppl's opinion on the treo 700p?

Don't flame me I am just investigating new toys for I am bored with my current array. I would never get the 700w for its a piece as well as the q. I used to run palm os and loved it back when I had palm pilots. So I ask, what do ya'll think? I know I could get a lot more games and such...but I will have to buy it out at full retail......just lookin for opinions since I respect all my fellow bb bretheren.

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The 700p appears to be a Palm O/S based device. I don't think I would just ship for a Palm based device, unless you need the apps. You seem to have a bias and a soft-spot for the Palm O/S - perhaps for nostolgia reasons. This is probably an "itch" that you will have to "scratch" at some point. I'd research this device over a TreoCentral forums (does Treonauts have a forum?) and the howardforums forums. See if it is plagued with the lockups and resets that the 650 had. Considering that you feel the 700w is a "piece" (your words), I'd not sure why you think this Treo will be different (even though it is Palm vs. Windows). The 650 was also a "piece," IMO. But I am probably too quick to pass judgement on this device (700p).

I'd consider a 700p, but that's only because I'd like to run another copy of my wife's Readerware application (only available on PDA for Palm OS). Readware is a convenient little database application for Books, Music, and movies. We have an extensive collection of all three. After working with a Treo 650, I don't think I'd consider a Palm O/S based phone unless I was after a particular app. A Symbian OS phone (does VZW have any of these) might be more interesting.



You can by all means try the 700p. But I'm not sure it would be a long-term relationship. But then again, it doesn't seems like that is what you are after. There are much worse hobbies to have (more expensive ones too). I'd say try the 700p for now (with the expectation it probably won't be a long-term marriage) and see if down the road another BB or Windows Mobile phone appeals to you. By then (within a year?) there may be something else to tempt you.

Here's my take on the current market.

BBs - continually evolving. Great push email communicators (especially with corporate BES servers). Limited PIM functionality. Boooring. Sold mainly as an end-to-end solution. handhelds are reasonably priced, but most complain the BB data plans and the BES server ($$$) are priced too high.

Windows Mobile - continuously evolving. each year's device seems to add enough features (or is that bling?) to induce people to upgrade, yet each device still appears to have one or two serious flaws (especially when used as a mobile phone) that keep it from being a reasonably "perfect" device. This is repeated year-after-year. The handheld tend to be expensive ($500-600 in not unusual). But they can connect to commodity servers (read not expensive) - MS Exchange server, OWA, Outlook Mobile, POP3, IMAP. Maybe some web-based mail (OWA?).

Palm O/S - I think the idea behind this was Palm OS was a very dependable and stable O/S for the standalone PDA platform. But once this was married to a phone (Samsung smart phones, Treo 650) some problems appeared to have developed. But maybe this has been changed? The number of phones using this O/S is very limited. The market does not appear to be expanding. Seems to still be popular in Macintosh circles.

Symbian - dead a standalone PDA, but seems to be enjoying a quiet revival in some mobile phones (Nokia? Motorola?).

/end my impression of the market.

The MDA (Cingular 8125), the Moto "Q", and the Treo 700w appear to be the most interesting Windows Mobile phones at the moment. I'm awaiting the new HP iPaq WM-5.0 based phone. The 8125 has the MSFP released now for it (pushed Exchange mail), but that doesn't appear to interest you. I'm considering a WM5 phone with MSFP right now (since like you) I'd like something new to play with. But if I could only have one device, it would be a BlackBerry 8700. The BB is basic, but I feel it works well.
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Wow thank you all so much. I woke up this morning to a great wealth of advice and opinions.

Now, first I want to say the reason I say the 700w is a piece is well I know it is. I work for vzw and know all the problems it has. The reason it has problems and it wouldn't affect the 700p in this way is because basically what they did was took a device meant to run on palm os and stuck windows on it. That is just leading for a mess. The device was built and designed to run palm os not microsoft os thus they are having many problems with it. As for the q, well like all Windows devices (I am a mac user so I see them for what they are) they are all flawed and make them seem nice enough to use when in fact they all have major problems. The q is no exception to this rule. Many problems.

The 700p would be a nice toy but I think your right that in the end I would end up going back to my bb. Since I don't have the cash for a short term marriage I think I'll probably just end up waiting. Hey if nothing else something better always is down the pipeline right? LOL.

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After a while with a BB, I decided to sell my BB and buy a Treo650...Well, it lasted less than 24hours before I returned it and bought another BB...

Hope that helps..
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Is a stable OS important to you? If so, stay on the BB ship.
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Is a stable OS important to you? If so, stay on the BB ship.

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i have used/tested/played with both and from what I see either way you go you are getting a good set up. if you are more into entertainment go for the treo call quality is unmatched, but in the same note no one can touch the email functionality of a blackberry
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Mosey over to the Motorola forum and read what is happening with the Q. It looks nice but is not perfect to say the least.

I tried the 700p and within a week was back to my Blackberry 7520.
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Yeah I sell the Q all day long. It is a piece. It is not a good phone. It has way too many problems all coming from the os not the hardware.
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I got a Q today. A BlackBerry killer? Hardly. I think I like the MDA better. And I don't like the MDA at all.

I can't believe that Motorola, Verizon and Microsoft are marketing this as a BB replacement. It's awful. Slow and difficult to use. They took away the stylus, but didn't really fix the OS, so you are left with an iconic, stylus based OS with no stylus.

I give up. I hope my 8700g isn't too pissed off at me for looking at another
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the q is just so buggy. The os is slow and not user friendly. It requires many steps to do simple tasks. As for the buttons, oh man don't get me started. The keys do not always work. They can not keep up if you are typing fast and they do not always respond to when hit. Its just poor overall!
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