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Old 07-09-2006, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can I get a BB and use it for just the calendar, contact database and as a phone for right now (I may use the other features later down the road)? Verizon said they could activate just the phone, but I'm wonder if the bb will still try to connect to activate these other features.

I don't need web access or e-mail at the moment, I'm just tired of lugging around my Palm PDA and a phone.

I'm considering the 7250 at the moment, perhaps the 8700 if it's ever offered by Verizon (the 8700 may offer far more then I'll ever use). I'll be getting a $100 credit from Verizon so I can now get the 7250 for free.

ALSO: Will my Palm data download to a BB? I'd hate to have to imput the 400 plus address' and phone numbers manually.

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Im currently using a 7100 as phone, sms, and calender device. It can sync contacts, tasks etc with outlook, lotus notes, act etc. And has the option to import your palm contacts in 1 easy step. So it would do everything your after, and still have the option to add the BB services should you ever decide to get them. However even though i dont need the services I am tempted to get them, its like having a ferrari and sticking to the speed limit, knowing it can go faster makes it much more tempting eventhough theres no real need.
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You won't have a problem with using it for a phone only. Just tell Verizon that as you are purchasing the BB and tell them you don't want the BB add-on. Blackberry won't interfere with that, it's the service provider that handles selling BB service.
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I have seen some carriers not sell or add a blackberry for service unless you add the Blackberry Plan.
I know that Alltel would not add or sell a Blackberry device without adding the BB data.
If you would use a carrier that is GPRS/GSM, you can swap the sim card, and continue to use the BB as a phone and organizer.
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you are coming from a Palm PDA, there will be a loss of functionality coming from the Palm OS to the Blackberry. This should be taken into consideration.
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If you are coming from a Palm PDA, there will be a loss of functionality coming from the Palm OS to the Blackberry. This should be taken into consideration.
Winston, what functions will I lose? I know I'll lose the touch screen, that's not a big deal since I use the screen keyboard most times. The items I need most are just the calendar, contact database and scheduling.
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Winston, what functions will I lose? I know I'll lose the touch screen, that's not a big deal since I use the screen keyboard most times. The items I need most are just the calendar, contact database and scheduling.
I am a current BB user but I am a convert from Palm. The contact management/scheduling is the thing I miss most about the switch. I am an ACT user and the ACT/Palm compatibility was excelent. I miss Palm every day for those features but the e-mail functionality of BB keeps me happy with the BB.

You seem to need those functions so I would play around with a BB's contacts/scheduling functions and see if you like it b4 swithcing.
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While I love my BB, I would say that the cell-phone is not near as good as many mobile phones which I have owned. The best overall performance was probably my Nokia 6585. With the exception of a short battery life, this phone had the best reception, excellent voice recognition capabilities, and perfect form factor.

I went to a BB to move from carrying a PDA and mobile phone - two devices just became a bother to carry around. So - I gave up some phone performance for total connectivity. It's been worth the adjustment so far - although I do admit that I am dropping signals on the phone in alot of places now. I am re-learning to not push my phone beyond its limits again. Next time I upgrade, I do hope RIM gets it right with the phone guts and includes better reception as well as voice-activated dialing.
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Winston, what functions will I lose? I know I'll lose the touch screen, that's not a big deal since I use the screen keyboard most times. The items I need most are just the calendar, contact database and scheduling.
Well I'm not sure if you are a Datebk user or not as opposed to the Palm's Datebook program but some things I miss are:
  • Using the Palm Desktop;
  • Templates in Datebk5;
  • Having the reminder, remind you in a couple of days rather than only having the option of later on that day;
  • Automatic annivesary calculation;
  • Icons in datebk;
  • Categories in Datebk;
  • Floating appointments;
  • Linking appointments to contacts; and
  • Countdown until appointment.
These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head that I miss. Some of them may be specific to Datebk5 though.

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For things like contacts, tasks, calender and memos the blackberry preformes as well as the palm imo, it does do things a little differently like only has 3 priority states for tasks but makes up for it by having completed, waiting, defered, etc. states. Because of this i have moved over to my bb from my palm which now just serves sat nav, games and videos.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston S.
Well I'm not sure if you are a Datebk user or not as opposed to the Palm's Datebook program but some things I miss are:
  • Using the Palm Desktop;
  • Templates in Datebk5;
  • Having the reminder, remind you in a couple of days rather than only having the option of later on that day;
  • Automatic annivesary calculation;
  • Icons in datebk;
  • Categories in Datebk;
  • Floating appointments;
  • Linking appointments to contacts; and
  • Countdown until appointment.
These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head that I miss. Some of them may be specific to Datebk5 though.
Wow, I use a few of these a lot, expecially the reminder function a few days or weeks out . Thanks for the heads up Winston.
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Wow, I use a few of these a lot, expecially the reminder function a few days or weeks out . Thanks for the heads up Winston.
Whoops. Now that I reread what I wrote you can have the appointment remind you as much as a week out. What you can't do is snooze the appointment.

Let's say you have an appointment three weeks from now and you want to be reminded today. If you set the reminder to remind you today and want it to remind you again next week, your only option would be to change the reminder to two weeks (which isn't possible anyway, because of the one week limitation). There is no option to "snooze" the reminder.

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Hmm, I guess I didn't use my Tungsten C to its full capabilities before I killed it last fall. Coming from a Palm, it seems the Blackberry is the most comfortable OS for me without actually using a Palm device.
My thinking when I got my 8700 (from ebay) two months ago would be that I'd just use it as a phone/PDA and not use any of the other features unless I absolutely needed them. So, I got the phone on a Friday and by the following Tuesday I was on the phone with Cingular adding the Blackberry plan. I thought I could hold out a month, but, I realized just how much I use the 'net on my phone when I didn't have it. If you don't use wireless web daily, you'll probably be fine. I never used to really enjoy using the Internet on a cell phone, but with the Blackberry, for the first time I really like getting online on my phone and find I'm doing this even more than ever.

I'm not sure how Verizon works, so I don't know if you can get the Blackberry sans data services and try it out first. You'll just have to ask. I've read nothing but good things about the 8700, but I'm not familiar with the 7290, so I don't know if it will do any good to wait or not as I'm not sure how long the wait will be for the CDMA version of the 8700. Why not try out the 7130? Just a thought.

Anyway, good luck with your decision.
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I am having the same problem, verizon will not let me use the phone function without the BB plan. The only other option is to pay as you go- but I am still connected and still using data despite not using email or web. Is there any way around this, can it be disabled from the handset?
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I am having the same problem, verizon will not let me use the phone function without the BB plan. The only other option is to pay as you go- but I am still connected and still using data despite not using email or web. Is there any way around this, can it be disabled from the handset?
The customer service person told me that Verizon could disable it on their end, I hope that's true.
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The customer service person told me that Verizon could disable it on their end, I hope that's true.

Well I have been on the phone all day battling it out with those nimrods, they tell me just the opposite. I honestly think they wont do it so they can get the extra $$$ out of me. I wish there were a way to disable it from the handset...

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