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Old 07-25-2006, 03:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, new to the forum.. first post

I've been a SideKick user for a couple of years (starting with the SKII). I actually use my sidekick for work and have a make-shift system for syncing on the go.. I have to jump though a few hoops to make that work and it's fairly fragle. For those interested I've:

-setup an outlook rule to save a copy of certain mail to a special outlook folder

-written a small python script to talk to the imap server and suck messages out of that folder and re-direct them to my sidekick address then remove them from my imap account.. this is always running in the backgound on my linux box at work. My work restricts outlook rules that redirect to outside mail accounts.. so I had to find another way. I redirect to the sk address because it's the only way I get the mail almost instantly.. if you use addtional pop accounts on an skII they are pulled down infrequently.. where the sk address pushes to you right away


-written a "AutoIt" script that's triggered by another outlook rule which automates the process of accepting all my calendar invites and spawning the sidekick's intellisync app to sync my calender and todo's. This is triggered by me sending myself a message with a specific subject line. So I can be away from my desk and mail "sksync" to myself and my calendar is updated.

So, I've sort of taped together my own over the air syncing for the sidekick.. not pretty but it works. I've become dependant on my skII at work.. I'm always in meetings or meeting with my team.. almost never at my desk. I hardly use the phone at all.. I use the data apps to keep me going.

At work I have the option of BB connect or Goodlink.. they will pay for either depending on what phone I choose if I decide to give up the SKII.

There are a couple of things about the sidekick that make it hard to leave:

-very good keyboard and function keys. Everything is at your fingertips.. once your hands are set in place there's no fumbling around.. roomy
-Very clean UI.. may look a bit cartoony.. but it's extreamly usable. The OS is well designed for the UI on the phone
-No touchscreen.. to me this is a +. I had a palm with a full keyboard and found most software wasn't taylored to be used by keyboard alone.. and you end up switching to touchscreen and back.. not good in my opinion.
-Browser does a good job of presenting pages on it's small screen.. I like the wide aspect ratio screen
-Great IM app

My only gripes are:

-slow processor.. and it's been a bit buggy lately. There was an os upgrade to add javascript but the hardware just isn't up to it and it's made it a bit unstable. I avoid browsing some websites which are too much for it and potentialy crash it
-No built in outlook over-the-air sync. I realize that I'm not the target audiance and it probably won't happen.. but I'm guessing if outlook sync (or bb sync) was an option more professionals would be interested
-Size.. it's bulky and heavy
-Camera sucks.. actually would rather just do w/out a camera

Really.. that's about it. Since the skIII has come out there isn't much they've improved that I'm interested in.. mp3 player, better camera.. don't want them. faster processor and EDGE.. yea, I could use that. Slightly smaller size.. just not significantly different. I don't think I'd really gain much by upgrading.. I'd gain a little.. but it's sort of spured me to see whatelse is out there

So, looking at other options. I've looked at the 8700g, 7130e (cuz t-mobile doesn't have a 7130), Moto Q, Treo 650.. here's my take:

8700g - This is the one that I really "want" to like. Full keyboard, EDGE, nice screen, small size, lightweight, BB connect, fast.. etc. Seems to have it all. Unfortunatly I feel the keyboard is just too tight for me. Actually, it may be the key shapes.. they are so flat that my thumbs just can't feel the diff between the keys that well. I've only used it for maybe 5-10min total.. If I felt comfortable on that keyboard I probably wouldn't look further.

7130e - This one surprised me. I think I was actually more comfortable typing on this then the 8700g. The keys feel a bit more seperate and the suretype worked quite well, surprisingly well. This is definatly a strong option.. smaller screen not great, but smaller phone may be worth it.

Moto Q - The formfactor on this is pretty amazing in my opinion. I was able to type accuratly and quickly right away on it. I liked that it was not a touchscreen even though it's windows... seems pretty fast, very light, small. I have a predjudice against buying a windows phone.. but I'm trying to keep an open mind. I really don't want Verison.. the data plans are really expensive.. so I'd probably wait till it comes out for other carriers.

Treo - keyboard and touchscreen.. maybe theyve worked it out where you're not fumbling between the two. I havn't had a plam for about 3 years but my impression is that it's still the same. keyboard is just too small. I've also heard some people have stability issues

Anyway.. not sure that anyone can really help me.. just figured I'd post my findings so far. I think I'll keep going in and trying to feel comfortable with the 8700g since for some reason that one seems to have all I want.. The other option is to wait till Tmobile gets a 7130 or equiv or the moto q comes in another carrier

I'm not in a rush, the SKII is still holding it's own for me.

Thanks for hearing me out

Daniel
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, thanks for the novel. I couldn't exactly find the question in all that. It sounds like you did all the research yourself. Just play with each one before you choose, although, in this forum, most people will tell you to get the BB 8700.
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I had the Moto Q for one week and immediately took it back. It would constantly lock up on me, and the email was not reliable. It also has an absolutely terrible battery life. If you don't get the extended battery, it probably won't last throughout the day.

I traded that in for the 7130e and couldn't be any happier. I think you will be disappointed if you get anything other than a BB. Good luck!
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I haven't personally tried the SK2, or Q. However, I definitely don't recommend a Treo unless they have drastically improved reliability on the new models (which I feel is doubtful).

A number of people have migrated from the 7290 to the 8700. The 7290 has a much more comfortable/intuitive keyboard. It seems like (again, this is gut feeling as I haven't carried out an official survey or anytihng) most people will eventually get the hang of using the 8700 keyboard after some time -- much more than just 5-10 minutes. Personally, I had a little difficulty with the 8700's keyboard at first but quickly overcame that issue. It is very much a YMMV matter.

That said, I'm always a bit surprised at what people will dismiss if it's not instantly usable. Certainly, no one would ever drive a car with a manual transmission using that criteria. Yet despite how popular automatics are, manuals are out there.

Still, you have to go with what you like and what you feel comfortable with. As mymitsu3kgt said, most of us will recommend the 8700.
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They actually improve the web browsing on the Sidekick 3. I heard there's less memory problems and better support for Javascript.

For what you are doing, I do recommend getting the Blackberry.
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Thanks for the thoughts. I realized after submitting my post that I rambled quite a bit and didn't nessasarily ask a question. I did think that sharing my thoughts may help others or encourage anyone else who's come from a SKII to pipe up. I'm pretty confident that software/hardware wise the BB is the right choice for me.. but mostly curious if others that have come from a larger keyboard (like the SKII or 7920) feel just as comfortable on the 8700

I'm definatly using the SK more as a BB.. and a BB would be better at the task. I am hopfull that I'd get used to the keyboard and realize that 5-10 min may not be enough. What I was surprised at is 5-10 min on the 7130 was enough for me to realize that it's a very usable option.

I'm on T-Mobile.. so I'd pretty much have to go with the 8700 or wait for a 7130g or whatever equiv they decide to support. I've read some of the other threads that T-Mobile may skip the 7130 series

Thanks for the replies.. good to know that a bit more time on the 8700 may settle my fears. I wonder if I can get a trial period with the 8700 and return it if it doesn't work for me.. I'll call T-Mobile

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Old 07-26-2006, 04:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by danl_kramer
I did think that sharing my thoughts may help others or encourage anyone else who's come from a SKII to pipe up. I'm pretty confident that software/hardware wise the BB is the right choice for me.. but mostly curious if others that have come from a larger keyboard (like the SKII or 7920) feel just as comfortable on the 8700

I went from a Sidekick II to a Sidekick III to an 8700g. You won't notice the keypad difference after a few days. Honestly, yes it's smaller and the keys are not like the SK II...that is probably the best QWERTY ever made, so you aren't going to find a replacement for that. But you will learn to love the 8700's keypad, i know i do because the BB works so much better than a sidekicker.

good luck!
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