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Old 07-26-2006, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I am working to make some sense of this, but would appreciate any help and advice if what I am trying to do is even possible. I am up against my 14 day return window so I must get these issues resolved today.

How I want to use my BlackBerry:

1. I have subscribed to BES according to the instructions of my IT department. This is so that I can have access to corporate email wherever I go. Corporate calendaring and contacts are also fairly important, but not as much as email.

2. I have a very important need to get my personal email while on the BES plan. I searched this forum and found the gmail setup very helpful. I believe I have this working fine.

3. What is at issue now for me is that I also must have the ability to sync Calendar, Contacts, Lists, and Notes from my PERSONAL HOME PC and not have that data go onto our corporate blackberry server. I don't mind if the calendar, contacts, lists, and notes *look* combined on my BB, but I definitely do not want this data on the corporate server.

In short, I require to sync to both a corporate server and my personal home desktop and to keep my personal data OFF of the corporate server.

Is there a way to do this? I tried installing the Desktop software at home and it really screwed something up...any advice or help on whether what I want to do is possible would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-26-2006, 10:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't believe there is a way to separate your corporate data from your personal data.
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Thanks for the reply. If this is the case I suppose I could mark some things "private". The main things I don't want synced to the corporate server are Notes as I have personal information in those.

Is it then possible to do a desktop sync as well as a corporate enterprise sync even if the data gets consolidated?

I guess this is rather disappointing to me. I can't imagine everyone wanting their personal data, contacts, etc. on a corporate server and it seems very strange that the BB is either a corporate device or personal device. Because I had to pay for it out of my own pocket there is no way I am keeping it if I cannot also use it for personal use. I realize personal email still works, but I really do need the other functionalities...

Thanks again for any other info.
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If you are doing wireless sync, then it is difficult - not impossible - but difficult to also do a desktop sync. Most likely you would end up commingling your information.

Since BES was designed for corporate customers, allowing both personal and corporate data was not a concern (I guess). Many companies - my included - do not allow personal BlackBerrys on our BES.
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" Corporate calendaring and contacts are also fairly important, but not as much as email. "


Hey coach! I know it's not a perfect solution, but if the above is true then why not load as many corp contacts as possible onto the BB and take it off the network BES then set up your BB on a BIS? True, you wouldn't have the corporate calendering or all the network contacts, but you could get email and be able to keep all your personal notes away from the company. You would have to manually sync by connecting BB computer via UBS cable and click a button. If you have a major need to sync while on the road it's a bigger issue, otherwise it may work for you.
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" Corporate calendaring and contacts are also fairly important, but not as much as email. "


Hey coach! I know it's not a perfect solution, but if the above is true then why not load as many corp contacts as possible onto the BB and take it off the network BES then set up your BB on a BIS? True, you wouldn't have the corporate calendering or all the network contacts, but you could get email and be able to keep all your personal notes away from the company. Maybe calender change alerts could be made via email.

You would have to manually sync by connecting BB computer via UBS cable and click a button. If you have a major need to sync while on the road it's a bigger issue, otherwise it may work for you.
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That assumes that his corporate e-mail is POP3. I know many, many companies that don't allow that.
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If it's not a POP3 email system, how does that effect delivery? (Thanks for the education )
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BIS can not get e-mail off of a corporate e-mail system unless it is POP3 (or perhaps IMAP). Some companies feel that's a HUGE security hole and don't allow it. So BIS doesn't work for many, many companies. If it did, there would be no reason for BES. Wireless sync came much, much later.

Disconnecting from the corporate BES is not really a good option.
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Thanks for the explanation Joyzee!
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Wow...well I appreciate all the info, but man this is a bummer. I really started liking this thing. I got to have this for combined business and personal use so I guess I am going to return it. :(

Thanks for the help guys...
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NJBlackberry,

Just for my own edification, does the BES wireless sync allow the setting of sync filters for contacts, calander, task and notes, the way the desktop manager intellisync setup does? I use categories with my desktop syncing to limit the contacts that are placed on my BB and was curious if this would work on BES.

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I've never tried to do any filtering with wireless syncing. I don't recall ever seeing any filters either!
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Thanks, I was just curious as I do it on my desktop. Don't want ALL my work contacts on my personal BB, but do want the ones I may need to contact when I'm away. But I sync my work PDA with both my work PC and my personal laptop and only sync my BB with the Laptop. .

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BIS can not get e-mail off of a corporate e-mail system unless it is POP3 (or perhaps IMAP). Some companies feel that's a HUGE security hole and don't allow it. So BIS doesn't work for many, many companies. If it did, there would be no reason for BES. Wireless sync came much, much later.

Disconnecting from the corporate BES is not really a good option.
actually BIS can get email via:
- POP
- IMAP
- OWA for Exchange - 2003 is supported only in BIS 2.0
- using mail connector for Exchange
- iNotes for Domino (only BIS 1.8 for this option)
- mail connnector for Domino
- or forwarding email to your BIS address
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None of which compares to BES....
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Football Coach,

You got me to thinking......
I realize you don't have much time to sort out what you wanted, but wouldn't it be better if you can access your corporate email through outlook and use redirector to redirect your corporate email, calendar, and contacts? Of course you'd have to leave the work pc on 24x7, but then you could sync with your personal machine at home without having any of your personal stuff showing on the corporate server. Just a thought....... I know it isn't true wireless sync, but it's better than nothing.
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Thanks for the suggestion titetanium...I had to return the BB earlier today. I really am disappointed as I liked the device quite a bit. I realize a lot of companies provide the BB for their employees but mine doesn't. My company will pay for the monthly data and phone plan, but not the hardware. So I am very reluctant to buy something that costs $299 that I cannot use for my personal information manager as well.

Maybe BB will change this in the future. It only makes sense to have both a corporate sync and a personal sync. After all you can get personal email...why not the rest of the stuff? This doesn't make sense to me, but what do I know?

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