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Old 08-18-2006, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a few general questions that I did not see answered in the FAQ, so I thought I'd post them here.

I just got a used (ebay) Blackberry 7280. I bought a used one because I wanted to try it out for a while before I committ to both a big purchase and a contract extension. So far I am really enjoying the device.

My questions are:

1. I'm not very bright when it comes to phone batteries. With my last phone, I was told that the best way to take care of the battery was to let it run low before recharging it. I noticed that the Blackberry recharges when its plugged in to my PC...will this kill my battery or are these batteries designed for this type of treatment?

2. By any chance, are there any 7280 T-Mobile users? T-Mobile does not support my device, so I was hoping someone in my same situation might have some advice.

3. I know that I should have BlackberryOS 4.0 installed on Blackberry, but how do I see what version I have? I read the FAQ and tried what was suggest, but it didn't work. I went to About in Options and I see "Wireless Handheld v4.0.0.185 (Platform 1.6.1.48)." Is this the right OS?

4. I noticed that the highest charge I can charge the battery is 95%. Is that normal?

5. I changed my T-Mobile plan to the Blackberry plan and that doesn't take effect until the 23rd, so I know that I can't access the internet. But I do have T-Zones and T-MobileWeb service until then. I don't have a browser (that I can see) so how do I connect to these services? I set up my APN following the directions in the FAQ but can't figure out how to access these two services.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.
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I have a few general questions that I did not see answered in the FAQ, so I thought I'd post them here.

I just got a used (ebay) Blackberry 7280. I bought a used one because I wanted to try it out for a while before I committ to both a big purchase and a contract extension. So far I am really enjoying the device.

My questions are:

1. I'm not very bright when it comes to phone batteries. With my last phone, I was told that the best way to take care of the battery was to let it run low before recharging it. I noticed that the Blackberry recharges when its plugged in to my PC...will this kill my battery or are these batteries designed for this type of treatment?
No. Charging your BB will not kill the battery, nor does it need any special treatment.



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2. By any chance, are there any 7280 T-Mobile users? T-Mobile does not support my device, so I was hoping someone in my same situation might have some advice.
The 7280 is a "850/1800/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS" and should work fine on the T-Mobile network as long as it's unlocked. If you put your SIM card in and can't connect to the T-Mobile network, you may need to get it unlocked. There are several services that can do that - just search the forums.



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3. I know that I should have BlackberryOS 4.0 installed on Blackberry, but how do I see what version I have? I read the FAQ and tried what was suggest, but it didn't work. I went to About in Options and I see "Wireless Handheld v4.0.0.185 (Platform 1.6.1.48)." Is this the right OS?
You have the right place to see what version you have, but the latest version (from Cingular) is 4.0.2.56 (there may be later versions elsewhere). You can download that from: https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=577BCC914F9E55D5E4E4F82F9F00E7D4, however, you need to rename the file ":\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader\Vendor.xml" to prevent it from being locked to Cingular's network. See http://www.blackberryforums.com/ringtones-themes-wallpaper-discussion/26764-zen-o2-orange-vodafone-themes-8700-only.html for guidance only. Remember, the downloads and instructions there are for the 8700. I only refer to it for keeping the Cingular OS from causing problems with your T-Mobile service.



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4. I noticed that the highest charge I can charge the battery is 95%. Is that normal?
No, it should be able to get to 100%, but the battery is probably just old, but it should be sufficient to see how you like the BB. Once you've decided you can get a new battery, or change to one of the really nice BB's - the 8700, 7130, or yet to be released 8100.



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5. I changed my T-Mobile plan to the Blackberry plan and that doesn't take effect until the 23rd, so I know that I can't access the internet. But I do have T-Zones and T-MobileWeb service until then. I don't have a browser (that I can see) so how do I connect to these services? I set up my APN following the directions in the FAQ but can't figure out how to access these two services.
You'll get your BlackBerry browser when your BlackBerry service starts. I'm not that familiar with T-Zones and T-MobileWeb, but they are both probably restricted Web services. I'm guessing that T-Zones is a full Web Browser and T-MobileWeb is a WAP Browser, but both are probably locked to whatever T-Mobile will allow you to get to. I know that on my Cingular 8700c, there are sites that I can't get to with my Cingular Browser (WAP) that I can get to with my Internet Browser. BTW, if you use a BES, the BlackBerry Browser goes through your Corporate network.



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Thanks again for the response.

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I only refer to it for keeping the Cingular OS from causing problems with your T-Mobile service.
Could you explain this in a little more detail? Do the different carriers have their own OS? Will I have to get my OS updates from Cingular (because this device is not supported by T-Mobile)? I'm really clueless on this sort of thing.

Edit: I also found under the Applications menu that I have Blackberry 4.0 Core Applications and Blackberry 4.0 System Software, along with other Blackberry 4.0 applications...are these the ones I primarily need to worry about?
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Thanks again for the response.



Could you explain this in a little more detail? Do the different carriers have their own OS? Will I have to get my OS updates from Cingular (because this device is not supported by T-Mobile)? I'm really clueless on this sort of thing.

Edit: I also found under the Applications menu that I have Blackberry 4.0 Core Applications and Blackberry 4.0 System Software, along with other Blackberry 4.0 applications...are these the ones I primarily need to worry about?
The OS is identical. The Vendor.xml file are vendor specific settings. For example, I'm on Cingular, and on my Cingular 8700c, under Options --> Network, I'm locked to the Cingular Network. I can't make any changes. I know on other (unlocked T-Mobile) BlackBerries I've had, I could attach to any available wireless network that it was capabile of receiving.

I checked the BlackBerry KB, and the update from version 4.0.1 to 4.0.2 appears to be related to a BES Admin deploying 3rd party apps. If this doesn't mean anything to you, don't bother to upgrade the OS.

If the device is locked, you might be able to get the provider to give you unlock codes, but expect to spend a lot of time on the phone, and days waiting for them to email you the directions. I did it twice with T-Mobile, but I did get it eventually.
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5. I changed my T-Mobile plan to the Blackberry plan and that doesn't take effect until the 23rd, so I know that I can't access the internet.
It's none of my business really, but why do you have to wait until the 23rd for your BlackBerry service to take effect? I recently switched back to a BlackBerry after not using one for quite a while, and it took something like a couple minutes for the BlackBerry service to be added to my account on T-Mobile.
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I changed my T-Mobile plan to the Blackberry plan and that doesn't take effect until the 23rd, so I know that I can't access the internet. But I do have T-Zones and T-MobileWeb service until then. I don't have a browser (that I can see) so how do I connect to these services? I set up my APN following the directions in the FAQ but can't figure out how to access these two services.

Thanks in advance for any and all help.
You will not get Tzones or Tmobileweb until your Blackberry data plan starts. They are part of the service books that t-mobile will send to your device once your plan starts.

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I know that I should have BlackberryOS 4.0 installed on Blackberry, but how do I see what version I have? I read the FAQ and tried what was suggest, but it didn't work. I went to About in Options and I see "Wireless Handheld v4.0.0.185 (Platform 1.6.1.48)." Is this the right OS?
The latest OS from t-mobile is 4.10.309. I know that platform works for my 7290 which is pretty much the same device as your 7280 so I don't see any reason why you can't get on t-mobile's website, download the OS and install it through your Desktop manager before your service starts.

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2. By any chance, are there any 7280 T-Mobile users? T-Mobile does not support my device, so I was hoping someone in my same situation might have some advice.
T-mobile states on their support site that they do offer "limited support" on devices they do not sell. But to be honest you probably will never need it since you found your way to these forums
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It's none of my business really, but why do you have to wait until the 23rd for your BlackBerry service to take effect? I recently switched back to a BlackBerry after not using one for quite a while, and it took something like a couple minutes for the BlackBerry service to be added to my account on T-Mobile.
They told me that rate plan changes do not take effect until the next billing cycle, which for T-Mobile is the 22nd of every month.

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The latest OS from t-mobile is 4.10.309. I know that platform works for my 7290 which is pretty much the same device as your 7280 so I don't see any reason why you can't get on t-mobile's website, download the OS and install it through your Desktop manager before your service starts.
Are you saying I can download the OS for the 7290 and apply it to my 7280?
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They told me that rate plan changes do not take effect until the next billing cycle, which for T-Mobile is the 22nd of every month.
That's strange. Whenever I make changes to my account, they are immediate.
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The only thing that the 7280 and 7290 have in common is the first two characters.

You CAN NOT take 7290 code and put it on a 7280. The 7210, 7230 and 7280 are software compatible, but the 7290 is a different species.
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The only thing that the 7280 and 7290 have in common is the first two characters.

You CAN NOT take 7290 code and put it on a 7280. The 7210, 7230 and 7280 are software compatible, but the 7290 is a different species.
So I can download the 7230 software (found that on T-Mobile) and install it on my 7280? Is this the case for most of their software?
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So I can download the 7230 software (found that on T-Mobile) and install it on my 7280? Is this the case for most of their software?
You can take the 7230 software and put it on the 7280. Just be sure to delete VENDOR.XML from your PC C: drive before you try to load it.
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