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Old 08-21-2006, 05:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Like the title says, I think I may have been sold a stolen phone.

I purchased a Blackberry 7280 off of Ebay from a Powerseller (with over 22k feedback) that looked reliable. Anyways, I'm jumping the gun.

I just discovered that the phone has about 20 DOD security certificates on it. Not knowing what to do, I talked to a cellular store owner who told me he encountered the same problem a few years ago and to call Cingular (that's who the phone is branded to) to see if the IMEI was reported as stolen. I called Cingular and they told me that because the phone is not activated with Cingular service, they can't look up the IMEI number to tell me if it was reported stolen (which I think is baloney). They gave me a number to RIM support, but they weren't able to help (and I didn't think they would).

So now I'm asking for your advice as I don't know what to do. I emailed the seller and included two things: the wall charger doesn't work and the security certificate thing. They only addressed the wall charger issue.

What should I do?
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why not try to activiate it before you assume it's stolen. A stolen phone will not activiate if you try to do it. Maybe they diddn't wipe the phone when they sold it you.
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The answer is simple... If you bought it with the intention of activating it, activate it. If it is stolen you will then know. You won't have the FBI, and CIA breaking down your doors, and if you do, you can simply prove to them that you bought it from eBay, and they will break down that powersellers doors.

Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Am I missing something?
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Defiance beat me to it, but yeah...
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Both of my BB's had DOD certificates on them brand new out of the box. I'm pretty sure that (some) BB's just ship with those loaded (unless Sprint sold me a stolen/used phone).

I remember reading somewhere on this forum that unless you worked for DOD, it was safe to delete the certificates from the Applications list. Being an utter slave to anything (reasonable) said on this forum, I removed the certificates and have suffered no consequences.

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Activate it with Cingular service? The phone is unlocked and I'm already using it with my T-Mobile service.
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ummm

L O L

So then what is the concern? It is activated and working... Now your questions REALLY confuse me
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ummm

L O L

So then what is the concern? It is activated and working... Now your questions REALLY confuse me
Playing it safe I guess. I'm new to the BB and cell phone world so didn't know if I had something that I wasn't suppose to have.

Thanks for the extra dose of sarcasm though. It's much appreciated, knowing that someone can ask a question and get laughed at for it. I just asked a simple question.

Thanks for the help and straight up answer mister.zero.
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Wow - I was hardly sarcastic. In fact I think my original responses were quite informative.

If you are this sensitive, I would suggest that you shut off your computer, never leave your house, don't watch TV, or read ANY periodicals.

Make sure you also put a sign up in your front yard, stating that you are very sensitive, and that people should tip-toe around you, because you may break into tears at the drop of a dime.

BYOKleenex.

Now THERE is sarcasim.
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Wow - I was hardly sarcastic. In fact I think my original responses were quite informative.

If you are this sensitive, I would suggest that you shut off your computer, never leave your house, don't watch TV, or read ANY periodicals.

Make sure you also put a sign up in your front yard, stating that you are very sensitive, and that people should tip-toe around you, because you may break into tears at the drop of a dime.

BYOKleenex.

Now THERE is sarcasim.
Yeah, like I should follow the suggestions of a Gators fan ;).

Oh, and you misspelt sarcasm there. I'll start working on the things you suggested when you learn how to spell.

Anyways, have a good day Milkman (seriously). I'm new to the boards and don't wanna start fighting with people I haven't met yet.
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Update: I just discovered that these security certificates are part of the DOD Root Certificates application that comes with the OS. My fault for not finding it sooner but at least I don't have anything to worry about.
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I'll start working on the things you suggested when you learn how to spell.
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misspelt
Need I say more?

You have a good day too, and seriously, don't get so offended so easily... I really never meant offense (except for that last post).
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My BB came with DOD Certs on it when i got it, and also the Desktop manager gives me the option of installing DOD Root Certificates on the device along with any other BB and third party software I had on the system, and my BB works fine, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Wow... I can feel the love in this thread.
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My BB came with DOD Certs on it when i got it, and also the Desktop manager gives me the option of installing DOD Root Certificates on the device along with any other BB and third party software I had on the system, and my BB works fine, I haven't received any visits from heavily armed men in black suits, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The carrier won't tell you if the phone has been reported stolen! Why would they? Then thieves could call and check...
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