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Old 08-22-2006, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have had my Treo650 with Cingular since last November, and I am honestly sick of it. As a PDA, it's great, but as a phone (isn't that like 1 of it's PRIMARY uses), it's terrible. I've looked at tons of different pda/phones, and from reading around, it sounds like they are all about the same.

Please convince me that the BlackBerry (one of them, at least) is a good PHONE as well as a PDA.

I'm stuck in Cingular's contract for another 15 months or so, so it looks like I'm going to have to just buy a phone outright or pay a fortune to get out of the contract - so I guess I'm stuck with Cingular.

Blackberry recommendations????
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wirelessly posted (Cingular 7130c: BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

The 7130 and the 8700 both work great as phones. The ETF is about $175. the 7130 goes for about $200 with a 2 year contract. The phone out right will be about $400. You would save approx. $15 dollars by canceling your contract, but you would lose your phone number.
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Get yourself an 8700c, you'll never look back. There all over the place, B/S/T here on BBF you can now get refurbs through Cingular and your looking around $150 - $225 if you shop hard. If it is used be certain to do your homework.

1. Has the PIN/IMEI been released by the past user. If you can get it ahead of time you can check with Cingular to see if it's lost/Stolen
2. Was the device used on BES? If so have the IT Policy's if any been removed?
3. eBay, all the above thrice over and if it looks to good to be true, it is!

Remember the BB is a communication device and some find it limited on a PIM level but for day to day most have little or no issue. If your after a stable, solid, secure and reliable device then you can't go wrong with the BB.

Good luck.

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I was kinda looking at a 7100 as well... I think I would prefer the qwerty keyboard, but I've also got to watch my budget.

Since this will require another $40 or so per month (I don't have a data plan on my Treo) - it'd be even harder to spend a lot more up front for the device.

How is the phone quality? Anyone on Cingular that can make me feel better?
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I use a Cingular 8700c with a Jabra X10 bluetooth headset. I purchased both the phone and the headset from ebay but did lots of research and homework first. I love, love, love my 8700c and headset. I never had a windows based phone, but I do have a Dell Axim. If they ever write some of my reference programs for BB, I would give up the Axim in a heartbeat. Hope that helps!
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Originally Posted by rctoyguy
Please convince me that the BlackBerry (one of them, at least) is a good PHONE as well as a PDA.

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I too had a Treo 650, but like you, I found the 'phone' aspect of the Treo to be cumbersome and clunky. I switched to a 6700 PPC, and found exactly the same thing...both were better PDA's than phones.

I then finally decided to try the BlackBerry 7130e, and have never looked back. First and foremost, it is a beautiful phone and especially easy to use. The only drawback to the BB is that it's a weak PDA when compared to Palms and PPC's. There is some software available, but pales in comparison to that available for the other OS's.

If I were you, I would seriously look at either the 87XX or 7130e series of BB's, although there will be a few new models coming out in the last quarter of this year, or the first quarter of next year. Look at both series... pick one up and handle it... don't let the 'SureType' of the 7130e series scare you, because it's a wonderful thing once you get used to it.

Good luck in your quest...
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Honestly I used to have a palm pda and a phone (motorola V551) and I have recently switch to a BB to combinethe two things.

My big surprise was that my bb sounds even better then my phone!!!

I now have a 7290 and I'm very satisfied!
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Another switcher here, from Treo 650 (T-Mobile) to a Blackberry 7105t. I'm thrilled with my choice. The Treo is an absolute brick unless you carry it in a hip case. On weekends, with shorts and that thing in my pocket, it kept threatening to pants me! 180 grams for the Treo vs. 120 grams for my 7105t. Plus I was really getting sick of the resets. I was down to a couple of random resets a week, but how can you depend on something that craps out whenever it feels like it?

My main reason for leaving the Blackberry platform a couple of years ago in favor of the Treos was storage. No memory card on the BB's, just the louse 16 MB internal storage. At the time, that was even a big bump up from 8 MB models! The SD card on the Treo was a Godsend for me, letting me keep all the files, charts, spreadsheets, and pictures I wanted and needed. But now the 8700 model is up to 64MB of internal storage, and the Pearl, which I plan to have the very second it's available, has an external micro-SD slot. 2 GB of external storage goodness, with 4 GB on the horizon!

One thing I got used to having on my Treo was the camera. It's a pretty crappy one, but for snapping a fast pic and emailing it I found it adaquate. Well, the Pearl has a camera, the first Blackberry to do so. I'm pretty pumped up about that nice little extra.

Email, a priority for me, is unrivalled on the Blackberry. If you want decent email on the Treo you have to purchase a third-party email program like Chattermail. And because I'm not on an Exchange Server, there was no way to get my mac.com email pushed. I had to set the phone to retreive email at set intervals. Battery life suffers greatly if you have it set for anything less than hourly checks. Plus the email process caused random freezes of my Treo so I'd have to reboot by taking out the battery or hitting the reset button (under the battery cover, of all places!). And speaking of batteries, I got one or two days between charges on my Treo with an aftermarket high-capacity battery. I get a week with my Blackberry, and it's pushing my email to me around the clock!

And how about those tiny chicklet keyboard keys on the Treo? I have small hands (no jokes, please. I'm sensavite) and the Treo keyboard was still cramped. My 7105t has the split/QWERTY keyboard with SureType and it's so much easier for me than the Treo. Even the BB's with QWERTY keyboards are far easier to use than the Treo since they're so much wider. You can really get those thumbs flyin' on a Blackberry 8700 or 71xx.
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had 3 Treo 600s and one 650. Switched to the 8700c last November. Haven't looked back since.

If you send a lot of email or TMs, you may want to have the QWERTY keyboard. Have heard many complaints about SureType and the 71xx keyboard experience.

There is more 3rd party software for Palm/WM devices than the BB, but I have not found that to be a problem.

As was previously said, the BB is an email device first, then a phone, then a PDA. Email is its strong suit. But I have no complaints with any of the functions. It does what I need it to do.
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Another Treo convert. Had the 650 but wanted to try the BB. I'm also under contract with Cingular so I couldn't afford to pay full price for a new BB, so I bought an unlocked 7290 on ebay. The e-mail alone makes it worth it and as a phone the BB works much better than I thought (no problems with hearing other people or the volume as others have reported. My only gripe is that the Treo was compatible with the EDGE network so the web browsing was much faster. Overall, it was a smooth transition.
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The Treo's 4-way navigation rocker and button in the middle is a nightmare. I got very used to the scroll wheel on the side of my Blackberries and missed it terribly when I switched. I'm a little worried about the new joystick/scroll device coming out on the Pearl, but we'll see....
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