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Old 09-05-2006, 07:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Right heres the issue, i have 5 sales guys who are very happy with their "raspberries" and would now like to be able to use the handsets to connect their laptops to the companies Exhange server. Just like they've been doing for years with their GPRS enabled mobiles.

Is this possible using the configuration shown below as an example:

LAPTOP >--bluetooth--> >--gprs--> EXCHANGE

If that makes any sense!!
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It makes sense, it just can't be done...

There is no way to currently transfer data via the BlackBerry BT. At this time, BT is limited to PIM synchronization, wireless headsets and a few keyboards. Perhaps in the future.
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h ttp://w ww.blackberryforums.c om/blackberry-guides/2019-user-howto-use-blackberry-modem-laptop.html

Isnt this what i'm after? Using the device as a modem then Outlook can sync over http?
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but i'm guessing this means it has to be 'wired' in?
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sorry i hadnt even read all of that HOWto properly. Seems a shame that such a modern device like a BB cant use BT for this function. Surely they realised people cant be arsed with cables anymore!
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RIM is concerned with security. Very concerned. And Bluejacking is not unheard of. So they prevent you from using BT the way you'd like to.

Everyone has their own opinion of this. There must be 50 threads on it...
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Right heres the issue, i have 5 sales guys who are very happy with their "raspberries" and would now like to be able to use the handsets to connect their laptops to the companies Exhange server. Just like they've been doing for years with their GPRS enabled mobiles.

Is this possible using the configuration shown below as an example:

LAPTOP >--bluetooth--> >--gprs--> EXCHANGE

If that makes any sense!!
In a BES / Exchange environment, when you connect the BlackBerry to a Laptop (any computer) running either Desktop Manager or BlackBerry Device Manager, and running Outlook in Connected mode, the connection between the BlackBerry and the BES (it never connects to Exchange) will happen over the Laptop's network connection - not over GPRS (it can't connect over gprs - lower case anyway) if a USB cable is used. I can only assume that if you can establish a data connection between the BlackBerry and either Desktop Manager or the BlackBerry Device Manager, the same will hold true.

As a side note, in our environment (BES 4.0 - not 4.1), we find that OTA Enterprise Activations somehow get corrupted over time, while an Enterprise Activation done over the wire like this is not only considerably faster, but also seems to not get corrupted as easily.

One other thing. We don't know why, but we can't do an EA if the computer is connected to the network over a WiFi connection - it must be wired.
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(it can't connect over gprs - lower case anyway) if a USB cable is used.
Ok but it is possible to use the blackberry handset as a modem and connect using the usb cable to a laptop......? I'm confused as you seem to know what you're talking about but have completley contradicted what the "Guide to using your blackberry as a modem" states as being possible and many people claim to have successfully configured.

Either that or i've just mis-understood what you're trying to tell me?
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So long as i can use the as a modem and get the laptop online outlook will sync with the exchange server over HTTP. However i've now been told its not possible with either usb or bluetooth!?
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Ok but it is possible to use the blackberry handset as a modem and connect using the usb cable to a laptop......? I'm confused as you seem to know what you're talking about but have completley contradicted what the "Guide to using your blackberry as a modem" states as being possible and many people claim to have successfully configured.

Either that or i've just mis-understood what you're trying to tell me?
OK, I misinterpreted what you were trying to do.

If you connect your BB to your Laptop and use it as a Modem, it will work just like any other Internet Connection - only a lot slower. I would also guess that if you need a VPN to connect to to Exchange, it probably won't work - there's just too much overhead and Outlook will just Barf (technical term!).

Id Exchange is set up with OWA, you should be able to use your BB as a modem and connect to your OWA connection.
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Outlook 2003 if setup to connect over HTTP will recognise the slow connection and only download the email headers......thus allowing a seamingly effective connection over GPRS. No VPN is required as using an authenticated Proxy will give access to the exchange server (over HTTP)

Thanks for your help though
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