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Old 03-14-2005, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Per Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150340,00.html
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I thopught they already did this...7100's????
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's only for T-Mobile, and it's a third party messaging software called "Oz".

It's not as good as third party messengers though...
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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.. and for the BlackBerry Connect folks ...
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Separately, RIM said HTC will bundle Blackberry Connect on the handset maker's devices, in particular those with integrated keyboards, the currently shipping 'Blue Angel' and the upcoming 'Universal'. However, HTC said the deal will "quickly expand" to its other Windows Mobile smart phones too.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03...ssaging_deals/
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It said in the first article that the IM client would be available to existing OS installs. The second article seems to imply it will be limited.

Would be nice to pick up the feature.
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Now that is hella-cool. Guess I can skip buying Verichat! Woo-hoo!
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Any idea on when this will actually happen?
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If they manage to put out a decent AIM,Yahoo product, I think verichat and IMmessenger and the other IM products, could be hurting. Free vs. 40 a year or 50 upfront. And you know that if AIM is doing it, MSN wont be far behind, with AIM Yahoo and MSN, there is no real need for the other guys. Sorry Verichat.
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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how about a trillian for the berrys. I love trillian for my computer and would love to see it.
or maybe an open source program that does the same. Free is much better than 40 or 50 buck...
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VeriChat is the Trillian for BlackBerries -- It costs 35 bucks.

If RIM instant messaging is going to be similiar to the 7100t client, then third party clients such as VeriChat and WebMessenger will still be at least 10 times better because of the reasons in here:
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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VeriChat is the Trillian for BlackBerries -- It costs 35 bucks.
VeriChat is more or less the Trillian of BlackBerries however unlike Trillian they want to charge you $30/yr on top of the $35 up front. You end up paying $30/yr to use the IM services that are being provided for free by AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc. You can also argue that unlike Trillian the VeriChat client is still very buggy. I think that a lot of people have jumped on VeriChat being the greatest thing for BlackBerry IMing but that doesn't make it a great IM client or a great value. In comparison I just switched from a Microsoft SmartPhone and had the Agile Messenger client running on it. Not only was the Agile Messenger client more reliable that even VeriChat but the service and the client were free!
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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VeriChat is more or less the Trillian of BlackBerries however unlike Trillian they want to charge you $30/yr on top of the $35 up front. You end up paying $30/yr to use the IM services that are being provided for free by AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc. You can also argue that unlike Trillian the VeriChat client is still very buggy. I think that a lot of people have jumped on VeriChat being the greatest thing for BlackBerry IMing but that doesn't make it a great IM client or a great value. In comparison I just switched from a Microsoft SmartPhone and had the Agile Messenger client running on it. Not only was the Agile Messenger client more reliable that even VeriChat but the service and the client were free!
I was able to run Verichat for 75 hours nonstop on one battery charge -- but then again I was using BES...

VeriChat reliability sure does vary a lot from carrier to carrier. There is definitely room for improvement. There are some bugs in it I'd like to see fixed, hopefully in the new single-socket version which they are taking longer than expected to release...

No doubt, RIM will want to make their version reliable -- if it is created by them.
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I was able to run Verichat for 75 hours nonstop on one battery charge -- but then again I was using BES...

VeriChat reliability sure does vary a lot from carrier to carrier. There is definitely room for improvement. There are some bugs in it I'd like to see fixed, hopefully in the new single-socket version which they are taking longer than expected to release...

No doubt, RIM will want to make their version reliable -- if it is created by them.
Coming from a sk2, I'm interested in the performance of Verichat. I'm also eager for RIM to finalize the download of AIM directly onto the BB7520!
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Someone posting about the 7290 in the Rumor Mill thread group posted this URL to the 7290 software:

http://www.t-mobileapps.com/download...m?selDevice=14

Among the list of software was an InstantMessaging app.

I installed it to my 7230 and after answering yes a bunch of times to the BB firewall, the app seems to work fine. Supports AOL, ICQ, and Yahoo.
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Originally Posted by WolfKeeper
Someone posting about the 7290 in the Rumor Mill thread group posted this URL to the 7290 software:

http://www.t-mobileapps.com/download...m?selDevice=14

Among the list of software was an InstantMessaging app.

I installed it to my 7230 and after answering yes a bunch of times to the BB firewall, the app seems to work fine. Supports AOL, ICQ, and Yahoo.
what are the chances this im app may work on 7250s? i'm tempted to give it a dance, but don't want to go through unnecessary restores if it's a waste of time.. anyone plunge into this one?
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
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@Wolfkeeper

I thought this app sent everything through SMS. Can you check your SMS bucket to see if your IMs were deducted?
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thats just the OZ client; check out the JAD file.
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Old 03-16-2005, 08:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I wonder if this new BB IM client will use native messenger protocol or SMS? I am going to be very disapointed if they go the SMS route!
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Old 03-17-2005, 12:54 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I like instant messaging with Verichat, have had very little problems to-date. I do agree with the cost concerns, I don't like having to pay for a service that is free of charge on a different piece of technology (personal computer).
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I took a look at the .alx file included with T-Mobile's download. It's the Oz Communicator which sends/receives via SMS
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