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Old 10-06-2006, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Further explanations of my subject:

I am the BB admin of a company that has BES and 13 BB users in United States, I was asked by friends if this toy will work in other countries, where

under the following condition:

- The Blackberry device is unlocked and will accept SIM card from any carrier.

- The SIM card inserted into the Blackbery is capable to do GPRS/EDGE data

- The (personal) email provider provides POP3 / IMAP


So far I know it will be lower case gprs showed up on the device, however I am not sure whether or not setting up personal email accounts under POP3 / IMAP protocol will work?
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Old 10-06-2006, 05:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry - the SIM card MUST have a BlackBerry Data Plan on it. A GPRS data plan doesn't really help. The BB must connect to the RIM infrastructure - even for POP3 e-mail and Internet.

Lower case gprs indicates it sees a GPRS network, but can't sign on (or get an IP address). Which can only be done if you have a BlackBerry Data Plan on the SIM card.
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Sorry - the SIM card MUST have a BlackBerry Data Plan on it. A GPRS data plan doesn't really help. The BB must connect to the RIM infrastructure - even for POP3 e-mail and Internet.

Lower case gprs indicates it sees a GPRS network, but can't sign on (or get an IP address). Which can only be done if you have a BlackBerry Data Plan on the SIM card.
When you said "The BB must connect to the RIM infrastructure - even for POP3 e-mail and Internet.", does that mean even Internet browsing will not work for him, in a country where there's no carrier supporting BB ?

I was thinking the bottom line is that he can use the BB device to sign on to web mail?
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Nope... There are carriers around the world that support the BB even if they do not sell it.

BUT - and there are no exceptions to this - if you have a BlackBerry, and try and use a SIM card that does not have a BLACKBERRY DATA PLAN - it will not work. No Internet. No Web Mail. Nothing.

For example - before any Indonesian carriers sold BBs, their Infrastructure handled them. So if I went there with my T-Mobile US SIM card, I could work just fine. But if I had a local SIM card, with a GPRS plan, I had no data services, but I would have voice and SMS.

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Got it, thanks a lot for clarifying this for me.
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I think there is a thread that explains how to configure manually the GPRS access so i don´t believe that wont work...
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If you can find a thread that explains how to use GPRS only - without a BlackBerry Data Plan - to get to the Internet or e-mail on a BB, please post it.. I think that would interest a lot of people.

Of course, I don't believe it can be done.
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...and what POP3 app is there for a Blackberry anyway if you get this set up (I don't believe it can be done either)?
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Further explanations of my subject:

I am the BB admin of a company that has BES and 13 BB users in United States, I was asked by friends if this toy will work in other countries, where

under the following condition:

- The Blackberry device is unlocked and will accept SIM card from any carrier.

- The SIM card inserted into the Blackbery is capable to do GPRS/EDGE data

- The (personal) email provider provides POP3 / IMAP


So far I know it will be lower case gprs showed up on the device, however I am not sure whether or not setting up personal email accounts under POP3 / IMAP protocol will work?
I just spent a month in Europe with my 8700c.. I use Cingular.
I signed up for the unlimited International data plan, and had my POP3 and Corp email without any problems. I used my browser everywhere as well without problem.. for $20 for a month this was very nice..

I intended to try one of the dual sim cards, but the BB didn't support it..
I ended up just using the Cingular voice plan calls.. spent about $200 for phone usage for the month..

Sam
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Old 10-16-2006, 11:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I just spent a month in Europe with my 8700c.. I use Cingular.
I signed up for the unlimited International data plan, and had my POP3 and Corp email without any problems. I used my browser everywhere as well without problem.. for $20 for a month this was very nice.
I really don't see how your situation is relevant.
You have a Blackberry Data Plan. The topic here is duscussing data usage WITHOUT a Blackberry Data Plan... which is not possible.
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