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Old 11-02-2006, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hey everyone, this is my first post on this site Yay for me nickbee is my buddy.

i have a little dilemma that i need your help with i got a new service plan (family plan) with my mom about 4 months ago. the service plan does not allow me to purchase a BB for a discounted price. i would like to purchase a new BB for less than the $450 that Cingular charges for the 8700c

some people have suggested ebay or craigslist.

i have concerns with using ebay or craigslist if they don't come with warranties. the only thing is that Cingular charges waaaaaaaay too much for these pieces of junk and nickbee won't sell me his old blackberry (before he got his pearl) b/c he says his old 7100t (i'd get it unlocked) isn't useful as a phone.

so basically, do you guys recommend i bite the bullet and shell out 2 months salary on a BB at full price? also, do you guys agree that the 7100t is not useful as a phone? please help me out. i'm a virgin at this stuff lol
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the only thing is that Cingular charges waaaaaaaay too much for these pieces of junk
And you are actually asking for help?
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd ask what you think your uses for a BB are? Typically, if $450 is "two months salary", this probably isn't the device for you...
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Old 11-02-2006, 03:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd ask what you think your uses for a BB are? Typically, if $450 is "two months salary", this probably isn't the device for you...

it's called a euphomism, my friend. i work as a commissioned salesman. i made $19k last month. nickbee can verify this

i would use the BB for office and personal emails. i happen to be known as a stalker of my deals in process, and if i can utilize a BB (as opposed to my current phone) for email correspondence and quick messages.

do i now have your permission to purchase a BB for a discounted price?
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Actually that's not a very good euphemism.

Add that to the presentation of your text (no capital letters except for 'BB') and you come across as a kid. No offense, but that's just how you look online. With BlackBerry devices having the 'bling factor' some kids might see them having, it's not uncommon for people who really can't afford them to get them and then do stupid things like eschew the entire data plan because they don't know any better.

But, as to advice, if you're going to be composing long emails just get a laptop. But if brief emails is your thing, consider checking out the Pearl before Cingular launches it later this month. I've found the Pearl good for some basic email outward, decent enough at reading it, but fairly limited as far as my ability to just send an email in less time than it might take to, y'know, make a phonecall.

And if you made $19K last month, and you want a Blackberry badly enough, a couple hundred dollars in discount shouldn't really hold you back too much.
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My suggestion is if you have to ask someone if you need it, then you don't need it.
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Check out the Buy Sell Trade forum right here for some good deals on used Blackberries. eBay is another possibility but fraught with peril. The usual caveats about dealing only with someone with lots of positive feedback, reading carefully, asking the seller questions, etc, are critical with electronic devices. Craiglist is also a possibility, especially if you can arrange to meet the seller at a Starbuck's or some place like that and see the Blackberry before handing over your $$.
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it's called a euphomism, my friend. i work as a commissioned salesman. i made $19k last month. nickbee can verify this

i would use the BB for office and personal emails. i happen to be known as a stalker of my deals in process, and if i can utilize a BB (as opposed to my current phone) for email correspondence and quick messages.

do i now have your permission to purchase a BB for a discounted price?
Yawn.

It was a legitimate question and piece of advice. Few of us make a habit of making assumptions as to what you do or why you do it. That's why the questions are asked. If you say $450 is how much you make in two months, why wouldn't we believe you?

I'll spare the diatribe about calling BS because, as stated above, if you make $19k/month doing anything, $450 is pocket change.

Forgive us for trying to help you, but it sounds to me like you have it all figured out, and did before you got here. Except for the definition of "euphemism". Here ya go:

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I am not going to bother with posting remarks as to your salary, your trouble spending $450 on a phone when you cleared $19k last month, or the fact that you are on a shared plan with your mom. Why? Because you didn't ask me to.

What I will say is this: You get out of a BB what you put into it. $450 so you have that full qwerty and flashy phone is not where you want to go with this. Go with a Nokia E-series (forget model number), or one of the many other flashy non-QWERTY phones. Blackberries have been misconceived as something anyone SHOULD have, and this is in fact wrong. If you wanted to pull a horse trailer, but liked flashy things, would you buy a Corvette? No. Why? Because you could get the job done and still look fine with a nice Honda/Toyota truck, which have more of the non-essential items but remain lower in price.

Answer the question for yourself...Are you actually going to use this thing to it's fullest extent?If so, then the investment is worth it, and you should go and pay full price for a warranty, because if you get a BB with a bad OS and try to take it to the store, they will turn you away without a Cingular Packing Slip/Order Confirmation.

Good Luck, and in future posts, try not to divulge so much personal information (ie, your shared plan, salary, etc.). Just tell us the bare essentials, and let us help you. You've opened the door to judgement.
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the only thing is that Cingular charges waaaaaaaay too much for these pieces of junk and nickbee won't sell me his old blackberry (before he got his pearl) b/c he says his old 7100t (i'd get it unlocked) isn't useful as a phone.
First off, why are you looking to buy a "piece of junk"?

Second, the non-upgrade price is the actual price of the Blackberry. Upgrade/new activation pricing is simply there to lure new customers in or to attempt to retain existing customers out of contract. They're not the same thing at all. As you've said, your choices are pretty much ebay or similar if you're not eligible for upgrade/new pricing.

I'd like a free current model Blackberry as much as anyone else but I've gone out and purchased at least two devices at non-contract pricing because I was in a situation where I didn't have any other choice if I wanted to upgrade at the time. If you can't afford it, you might want to consider a cheaper alternative as you'll also need a data plan that would probably be pricier per month than another device out there.

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hey everyone, this is my first post on this site Yay for me nickbee is my buddy.

i have a little dilemma that i need your help with i got a new service plan (family plan) with my mom about 4 months ago. the service plan does not allow me to purchase a BB for a discounted price. i would like to purchase a new BB for less than the $450 that Cingular charges for the 8700c

some people have suggested ebay or craigslist.

i have concerns with using ebay or craigslist if they don't come with warranties. the only thing is that Cingular charges waaaaaaaay too much for these pieces of junk and nickbee won't sell me his old blackberry (before he got his pearl) b/c he says his old 7100t (i'd get it unlocked) isn't useful as a phone.

so basically, do you guys recommend i bite the bullet and shell out 2 months salary on a BB at full price? also, do you guys agree that the 7100t is not useful as a phone? please help me out. i'm a virgin at this stuff lol
I never used a 7100t so I can't provide any feedback on it.
However, I have a 8700g and it works well with TMO. I would believe the 8700c would work well as well.

If I could make 19k a month, I would not even attempt to consider the $450.
I make way lower than 19k a month, and I purchased a TMO branded 8700g (without contract) without even thinking it would be expensive.

If you need it and can afford it, buy it.
If you can't afford it, may be you should move on something cheaper.

By the way, just like takeshi has mentioned, you might need to add a BB data plan.

If you are one of those people who just want a BB because "it is cool, and look great, and i can email blah blah blah" but do not want to add a BB data plan, may be it is not for you. anyhow, it is your choice. you know what works for you or not.

However, I will make a note to myself, if I see any posting from you regarding "can I use my bb without data plan?", I will refer you back to this post. LOL.
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