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Old 03-25-2005, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay. So I was a T-Mobile customer and I had the Blackberry 7100t. I liked this phone very much. My plan was $59.99 and I had no complains really. I started doing some work for an organ transport network and they used Nextels. My friends all used Nextels so I decided to give Nextel a shot.

Now when I had my 7100t I worked in a corpoarte environment, I used my emails. After I left that job, I never got my emails working and never fixed it, I really didn't care bout the emails, I had emails coming in from 1 source, emergency calls in my area. And I used it for SMSing a lot. That is why I used it over a normal phone.

So I decided to give nextel a shot. I picked up an i730 and was disapointed that they still had not fixed the SMS problem where it took too long to get to the SMS menu. So i returned it. I picked up the blackberry instead. Now their i860 does SMS better but still i figured a blackberry would suffice me.

So now I have the Blackberry 7520 and i am VERY VERY disapointed in this. Here are my con's/pros compared to my 7100t:

CONS

1. PRICE - I'm paying about $100. $49.99 for 300 minutes w/free incoming, $34.99 for unlimited blackbery and then $15 for web access (that is RIDICULOUS if you ask me, i have to PAY for my web access now its not included in my blackberry fee... the normal unlimited blackberry plan is $44.99 mind you)

2. RING TONES - Umm yeah these suck bottom line. They are normal crappy midi ring tones, not even polyphonic style. They really blow. I compared my same ringtones i downloaded to my 7100t, they are horrible on the 7520

3. SMS - Umm sorry there IS NO SUCH THING as SMS with a 7520. They do it all via email. SOOO that means I have to actually add an email address for every single one of my contacts linking back to their # @ their providers SMS email. Yeah i have over 100 contacts, thats a real big downfall.

4. I CANT EMAIL - Yeah out of the box I installed it, i could receive emails fine but i get that same Decryption Error so many others get, so yeah im mad at that

5. SIZE - This thing is wider then my 7100t Screens a lil shorter and theres a fullsize keyboard but its still tough to use the trackwheel on a wider device.

6. BATTERY LIFE - I went to get my carh washed and showed my friend the 7520, by the time i got back i was down a good 2 bars from DCing a few people.

7. BROWSER - Or lack of, Nextel took over the browser on the phone. So I either hafta goto a link via email or install a 3rd party app to browse the web... dont forget that additional $15/month just to get access to browsing hte web... ohh but I get 500 text messages though... which i dont undersatnd because YOU CANT TEXT MESSAGE from the blackberry you can receive them.

8. SPEAKER - Whats this big ole speaker on the back for. Ohhh thats my speakerphone... which is where my DC calls come into, WHICH is covered up by my hand cause thats how you hold the blackberry... GOOD thinking guys, ugh.


PROS

1. Hey for a free $30 or so on my account, its not bad ($249.99 plus 27% EMS discount + $100 rebate + $100 hand-in-old-pda rebate)

2. DIRECT CONNECT - yeah its got the DC, thats what Nextel is known for

3. 15 DAY TRIAL PERIOD - Yeah this is a good thing, cause im sending it back.


Umm thats bout it, i really couldnt come up with any more cons.

I am real disapointed at the lack of SMS and the price, i mean WOW $100+ just to get the same functions as I got with my blackberry on t-mobile, yeah SO not worth it.

I will be handing back my blackberry next week for my old t-mobile plan. Luckily they have that 15 day trial period.
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As far as price, I don't know what the $15 web access charge is. I think the person you talked to on the phone was mistaken. I think you are cancelling it before your first bill so you won't know for sure if it would show up on your bill, but I really think that is not accurate.

Ring tones, unimportant to me...I use the vibrate mode 99% of the time because it lives in the holster.

SMS...Amen Brother, I wish Nextel could get SMS figured out. Having BB email is like SMS for me because at least you don't have to wait to go online to compose messages. But sometimes I need to converse with someone using SMS and with Nextel, you cannot reply to an SMS, you have to compose a new message to their email address.

Decryption error is not normal...maybe a pc config issue. At least it probably isn't a Nextel specific issue.

Battery life on my 7520 seems to have improved with age. I can now go all day with heavy backlight usage...this was not possible when it was brand new.

Rumor is Nextel is enabling the html browser in April. Since you said you have 500 messages, I really think your CSR screwed up your account. I specifically asked about that when I switched to the BBerry and was told messaging was not needed with a BBerry account.

I don't think there are any other places to put the speaker but on the back. The way I hold it only one finger goes over it and it doesn't really even touch the back so no real effect.

I am not trying to talk you into it, definately stick with what you are comfortable with. I just wanted to address some of what you said.
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How about a T-Mobile 7290? It can do almost everything the 7100 can do, with the exception of polyphonic ringtones. (SMS works fine, full web browser, even better battery life than 7100, bigger than 7100 but smaller than 7520, instant messaging).

The size of 7290 and the lack of polyphonic ringtones, may be the only two shortcomings.

Also, phones on the Nextel and CDMA network typically don't last as long in battery life as GSM/GPRS cellphones...
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The decryption thing was due to the 4.0 version of the blackberry software, known issue at nextel. When i got my blackberry i did not order a web plan, didnt think i needed one. Well i tried to access a website (i used a link i sent myself via email) and it wouldnt work. Told me i dont have access to that. So I ordered a $15 plan for web (unlimited web + 500 txt messages the other plan was $10 no unlimited web) and could access the site. So yeah it kinda sucks that im paying a lot more and im not getting the big features i want:

SMS
Fits in my hand (7100t is less width then any blackberry out which i like, it was DESIGNED to be used as a phone)
Ringtones

So i decided to go back to t-mobile and just get a $30/month DC plan for what i'll use it for with work/friends.
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7290 is a great BB, but is also lacks a speakerphone (which is one of the things I miss from the 7100t).
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Oh, good point -- if speakerphone was a major buying consideration rather than other things (i.e. full keyboard, etc), if that helped lead him to the 7250...
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I have a 7520. I was with verizon before. I couldn't get anywhere near the deal I got with nextel. I have 1000 unlimited mins.and unlimited wireless for 98 dollars a month. My corporate discount is 18%. That is 82 dollars a month. I am on the BES server and I get my emails immediately. I can answer during boring meetings and I use the speaker phone often, the speaker is loud and clear, in fact, we have used it in meetings when the supplied phone was not working properly. The wide body fits my hand a lot better than my skinny phone did and the holster fits tight to my side and seems less intrusive than my last phone. My Blackberry exceeded my expectations.
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I love my 7520....dont have any of the complaints you do...and I have the 44.99 unlimited plan....i dont know of anyone that had to add the $15 web plan no matter which plan they got...

if you stick with Nextel the 7100i should be out soon...dealers can already order accessories for it through "fulfillment optimization" I dont have an exact date but every time someone has told me a date they were all before the end of the year....
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Nextel 7100i should be out by the 15th... it was slated for today, but Sprint being the bastards that they are changed it so they could sell more i930s that also launched today... if not the 15th, definately by the 31st...
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I love my 7520... I would never switch down... I have been with nextel for the last 4 years and I won't switch now!
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everything I was reading on "inc" was pointing towards the 15th....but I didnt want to get any ones hopes up...thats good to know ill be picking one up for sure..ill be keeping the 7520 since I may not like the sure type on the 7100i
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I love my 7520 cant imagine having any other phone it will be hard to beat. I would like the smaller phone but dont want sure type
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I have the Nextel 7520 and I love it. Although I disagree with some of your points, I do agree with your price, ringtones, and battery life points. I also have an I860 which I liked also. I was struggling with the "Keep the 7520 or the 860?". No matter how much I wish it would happen, there is no way Nextel is going to make a bad A$$ BB that combines a REAL cell phone and a BB. I just think it is impossible for them, hence the push back date of their new one. Iam in no way bashing Nextel, because I love them. Never had problems with them. I talked to a guy the other night that had one of those Sprint Pocket PC, I think it was. It looked pretty sweet and it did everything that the I860 and the BB 7520 did all in one! I was like HOLY S@!T!!! Man that is the ultimate. Takes pics, has mp3 ring tones like the 860 and everthing, AND it does just about everything that the BB7520 does. He said he didn't like it for a phone because it was too big. I was YEAH try this one on for size for a phone, and showed him the 7520. That phone of his looked just like a handheld laptop. (hince the name I guess) Anyways, honestly I think all of us are going to find something we do and do not like about our BBs and phones. Seems to me that you just need to ask more people about the phone your going to buy. I not knocking you bro, but when I spend big $$ I ask a WHOLE lot of stupid questions about the product I'm buying. I hate returning things. When it comes down to it, you're gonna have to give a little to get a little.
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