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Old 11-14-2006, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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is the samsung blackjack really better than any blackberry model? i went to cingular yesturday and a salesman said black will eventually knock out blackberry. i would love to hear what everybody else thinks. the blackjack has very nice features: but i love my blackberry. i dont know if i could switch regardless of all the better features.
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I just went to Cingular website and there's no information about the Blackjack phone.
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That salesman probably doesn't even know about the 8800 coming soon so he doesn't quite know what he's talking about.
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type samzung blackjack in google search. the sales rep. said it's going to be released this week. check it out and let me know what you think.
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The reason that I left blackberrys were because although they are great for email....the rest of their features lack. IMO unless the company is going to pay for me to have my emails, then its not worth it.

Why pay close to $100.00 per month on something that I really dont want to deal with anyways when I leave work. PPC's such as the Blackjack are nice because they still have the size of the blackberry, but has more features. For instance the 8125 still has a full keyboard that slides out, but also has Wi-Fi and Microsoft Word and Excel in useable formats. Have you actually used Microsoft Word and Excel on the blackberry? Forget about it.

While the blackberry is making a comeback as far as features, I dont think that will be able to catch the PPCs. I also dont think that blackberrys will be wiped out either. I think that there will be a strong following of each.
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Actually the release date is supposed to be the end of week. Which means most Corp stores such as ours will have it Monday.

I have seen one and played with it. It is not bad. The BIG advantage is the UMTS and size. It is pretty sexy looking as well.
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Cingular's Samsung BlackJack i607, announced and reviewed - Engadget Mobile
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The reason that I left blackberrys were because although they are great for email....the rest of their features lack. IMO unless the company is going to pay for me to have my emails, then its not worth it.

Why pay close to $100.00 per month on something that I really dont want to deal with anyways when I leave work. PPC's such as the Blackjack are nice because they still have the size of the blackberry, but has more features. For instance the 8125 still has a full keyboard that slides out, but also has Wi-Fi and Microsoft Word and Excel in useable formats. Have you actually used Microsoft Word and Excel on the blackberry? Forget about it.

While the blackberry is making a comeback as far as features, I dont think that will be able to catch the PPCs. I also dont think that blackberrys will be wiped out either. I think that there will be a strong following of each.
You don't have a Blackberry anymore?!?!

So why are you still here? What phone do you have now?
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Thanks! I check it out right now.
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I just check it out. Looks nice but it uses Microsoft Windows. I don't think it will be better or beat Blackberry.
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You don't have a Blackberry anymore?!?!

So why are you still here? What phone do you have now?
I am here because I enjoy this site and moderating. As of now I have a LG CU500 and another personal device. I plan to get the next PDA available with UMTS. Possibly the 8525.
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I am here because I enjoy this site and moderating. As of now I have a LG CU500 and another personal device. I plan to get the next PDA available with UMTS. Possibly the 8525.
Corey - ignore Secrecyguy... He was kicked off the forum I help with (XM411.com) for acting just this exact way.

Thanks for helping me, by the way. (with my Cingular questions from earlier today)
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey folks can yah help a noob out over here...? I'm torn between the Pearl and the Blackjack.......'splain to me Lucy.......what features the BJ has about dealing w/MS office apps Vs. Pearl using the MS office Apps.

Reason is I need access to Word and PPT doc as we share our class group projects. Let me re-word just in case....

Blackjack...will it allow edit abilities to the MS docs...?
Pearl.....is it only a view and no edit...?

The only down side to the BJ that I've read is the short battery life.

Features I really need are Phone, PDA info access while using phone and then occasional use of e-mail for sharing school files.

IF anyone has a different alternate suggestions based on my stated needs I'm open to that also ...but I really have my heart set on one of the two choices... I've read CNET and other reviews until I'm blue....you folks sound like real world users w/ the T-shirt bin-there-dun-dat....lol.....

Soooooo.......your personal biased opinion on the +'s or Deltas of each one is greatly appreciated.....I have about two weeks until my contract w/Cingular runs out and live in south Texas near Houston.....so I am open to other carriers also.......thanks......C-man...
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It seems the cingular rep qes jut trying to make a sale in order to modify/edit exell or word document you need Dynoplex's eoffice suite. The it sells for$200.

Also ANY winblows OS be it mobil or PC verssion has more security holes tha swiss cheese. And from what I hear the moble verssion is not stable
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It seems the cingular rep qes jut trying to make a sale in order to modify/edit exell or word document you need Dynoplex's eoffice suite. The it sells for$200.

Also ANY winblows OS be it mobil or PC verssion has more security holes tha swiss cheese. And from what I hear the moble verssion is not stable
Thanks.......looks like a Pearl more and more....lol...
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It seems the cingular rep qes jut trying to make a sale in order to modify/edit exell or word document you need Dynoplex's eoffice suite. The it sells for$200.

Also ANY winblows OS be it mobil or PC verssion has more security holes tha swiss cheese. And from what I hear the moble verssion is not stable
You hit the nail on the head. I've seen multiple products been pimped out as the "blackberry killer" only to go down in a flame of shoddy craftsmanship, HORRIBLE OS problems, stalls, security holes, crashes, etc. etc. The list is quite endless. The Blackjack is pretty, but at the end of the day the Pearl beats the snot out of it, and when big brother 8800 comes out you can bet the Blackjack will have busted. (pun intended) No matter how cool a device is if it runs on Windows Mobile or Palm it's destined for the trash heap. In a matter of 2 days I watched the two uber-rich guys that I work for switch from a Treo 650 and a Motorola Q to Blackberry 8703e's and I've heard nothing but "Dayne these Blackberry's kick the crap out of our old phones!". They just can't get over the fact that a blackberry doesn't stall, crash, lock-up multiple times a day, and really like instant email while on the go. If Blackberry's survived in the 6000 and 7000 series days, you can be sure that with the Pearl and 8800's out Treo's are quaking in their boots.
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:43 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It seems the cingular rep qes jut trying to make a sale in order to modify/edit exell or word document you need Dynoplex's eoffice suite. The it sells for$200.

Also ANY winblows OS be it mobil or PC verssion has more security holes tha swiss cheese. And from what I hear the moble verssion is not stable

First of all, I sure hope your not talking about me trying to make a sale. That is not my point of being here. Secondly, have you used Dynoplex eOffice? Its horrible. I used a free copy given to me by Dynoplex because I was going to do a reveiw on it. The functionality and UI of th program is terrible. If you want to edit docs and such with your BB then yes, the eOffice program is what you are going to need.

However, my point of the whole conversation was that YOU need to evaluate the points of your needs, not the conversation of everyone else here. Dont let them make the decision for you. In addition, I have never run in to a PPC that was "attacked" by hackers or what ever. Simply because most people dont care or dont know. A blackberry totally secure??? Doubt it. Or else why have there been viruses. And didnt I just read something on THIS board that said that there was a security flaw with the blackberry that allowed access to internal secure departments via BES on Blackberry. Pretty sure I did. So that B.S. about one device being more secure than another is untrue. If you can create it, someone will figure out a way to get in to it.
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[quote=Chinookman]
Blackjack...will it allow edit abilities to the MS docs...?
Pearl.....is it only a view and no edit...?

The only down side to the BJ that I've read is the short battery life.

Features I really need are Phone, PDA info access while using phone and then occasional use of e-mail for sharing school files.[quote]

haha, BJ, wouldn't it be funny if everyone start calling it the BJ instead of the BlackJack? But I digress.

From the looks of it, its running WM5 smartphone edition which is the same as the Q, and if thats the case, no you WON'T be able to edit any type of documents, only read unless you get 3rd party apps. Again, if its running WM5, you will most likely run into the same type of problems that I have run into using the Treo 700W and the Q in the past, which is memory leaks, daily resets, instability. But if you can live with that the multimedia features are def. better than the BB. It all depends on what you want to use it for. After using WM5 for over a year, it is such a nice change to have a stable OS with no crashes or freezes, no slowdowns and everything just zips along and I'm willing to sacrafice the lack of multimedia functions, not being able to edit docs (which I never did). However, the only IMPORTANT feature I truly miss is the ability to attach files when I compse emails. Its so strange an important feature like that would be left out on a device such as the BB. But hopefully, the next OS would fix that issue.
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I can't say anything about the device itself but if it's running the same OS as the Q I'd venture to stay away from it. I mean my Q didn't even have a copy and paste feature!
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So it looks like " to each his own "
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