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Old 01-22-2007, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am with TMO and the international (voice) roaming costs too much. However, I would want to use the BB for email, pin message, and data oversea with the roaming, except the voice.

What is the best way to setup my TMO account in order NOT TO receive any voice call, but keep the data coming while roaming in oversea?

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Old 01-22-2007, 10:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Easiest way is to not answer the phone! You can't turn off voice and leave data. If you don't want to hear the phone ring, go to profiles, edit, phone and scroll to the bottom and select "do not disturb." That will send all calls to voicemail.
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I am based in UK but was travelling in US recently and wanted to avoid taking calls on my BB (the rate to receive calls for me was 55 pence per min!). So I asked T-Mob in UK to set up unconditional voicemail divert on my BB to make sure all callers trying to reach me would go straight through to voicemail without the BB ringing. Worked fine, however on my return to UK I found that T-Mob had charged me 55 pence per min for the voicemail call itself and I am disputing this charge with them (I don't think it's fair). Unconditional voicemail divert might work for you - just check for hidden charges - might be different for US phone companies.

Regarding email overseas, T-Mob UK do not currently offer an international data plan. But I found a very good way of controlling costs for receiving email: I set up my email to get message headers only - I then chose which messages I wanted to see in full. There was no way I was going to pay to receive full spam messages to my BB!
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IIRC any calls on GSM carriers that go to voicemail will be billed at the international per minute rate (in some cases, at twice the international roaming rate) when you're traveling internationally. The only way I've found to get around this is to just disable voicemail entirely. From what I understand (which is admittedly limited) it's an issue with how voicemail is handled on GSM. You could then get a prepaid SIM overseas for voice calls but you'll need a suitable phone in addition to the Blackberry.

AFAIK no carrier offers Blackberry data on a prepaid SIM so it's not really an option.

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Actually, that makes sense. The voicemail is basically a call forwarding....never really thought about it and never see my bill.

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IIRC any calls on GSM carriers that go to voicemail will be billed at the international per minute rate (in some cases, at twice the international roaming rate) when you're traveling internationally. The only way I've found to get around this is to just disable voicemail entirely. From what I understand (which is admittedly limited) it's an issue with how voicemail is handled on GSM. You could then get a prepaid SIM overseas for voice calls but you'll need a suitable phone in addition to the Blackberry.

AFAIK no carrier offers Blackberry data on a prepaid SIM so it's not really an option.
I just got $30+ in charges just for keeping my phone in france! I am on Cingular Blue (ATT). Most of the charges are not even related to an incoming call going to VM. Apparently, everytime i turned my phone off and back on (or if the phone lost the network for a min), the phone tries to call the VM system (in the background) to check if you have a new VM and i got charged $1.29

I always thought thet the VM system works like push email where the sysstem transmits data to the phone to tell it there is new email. i was wrong at least based on Cing cust serv
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If we could use AIM, Yahoo Messenger and MSN without incurring charges, then why can't we come up with unlimited international emails without being charged... maybe calls, too. any ideas Geniuses?
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Halford, you can subscribe to a BB International data plan (unless your carrier doesn't offer one).

As for at&t, I've never experienced my devices "checking for voicemail in the background" and incurring charges while traveling internationally. However, I am an orange customer so there may be a difference there. I haven't seen this with TMO while traveling internationally either.
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