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Old 04-04-2007, 12:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I tried to set IM+ to use TCP/IP with BIS transport and it wouldn't connect. So I kind of wanted to make sure BES/MDS hosting is what I need to get it running.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:02 AM   #22 (permalink)
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you can always try The Message Center Exchange Hosting. I have been with them for over a year now. with BES its 18.95 a month 500mb of storage. you can also change your plan ANYTIME you want i.e. take off BES and add goodlink, or sharepoint...etc. all from a control panel without calling or emailing support. and i also have never experienced any down time on their server for the entire time.
I'm also using the message center as well as my outsourced exchange and BES. Nothing but good things so far.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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if i already have BIS, is there any point to getting BES?
You might want to visit BlackberryFAQ.com and read up on BES. Without knowing your needs/wants and whether they correspond to the additional features of BES there's no way to tell. Most people probably wouldn't see much benefit.
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Someone introduced me to a company yesterday that is suppose to be able to do for blackberry; treo; wm5; what BES does for blackberry but at a lower cost. The company is genielook.com. Anyone familiar with it?
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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You might want to visit BlackberryFAQ.com and read up on BES. Without knowing your needs/wants and whether they correspond to the additional features of BES there's no way to tell. Most people probably wouldn't see much benefit.

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Old 04-13-2007, 06:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Someone introduced me to a company yesterday that is suppose to be able to do for blackberry; treo; wm5; what BES does for blackberry but at a lower cost. The company is genielook.com. Anyone familiar with it?
It appears that they offer much the same thing as the other providers in this forum, i.e., Exchange hosting with the option to add BES.
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:32 AM   #27 (permalink)
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If you have BIS/MDS then nothing save email and a few syncronization abilities (OTA sync), I however do not have BIS with my plan, I'm on a pure cellular phone plan (literally pulled my SIM out of my phone and put it in my BB, nothing more), so the only intenet access I have is using opera mini, which looks for ANY avalible TCP connection. Most of the 3rd party BB apps run through or install through the BB browser, which refuses to do anything because I lack the Browser servicebooks.

I'm acctually looking at it more for the BIS/MDS hosting than the BES (every single email I have has a webmail login avalible) but, it's a package deal, or I pay $40 a month IN ADDITION to my phone plan for BIS, I dont have that kind of money laying around every month (I'm acctually going to be canceling my Napster subscription to pay for BES/MDS hosting --- though for me it's really a much better deal since I use it a hellova lot more than I used Napster --- and I'll still have an extra $5 a month left over!)
ok, i'm just interested in what i bolded in the quote above....basically I do have a blackberry pearl, and on top of my voice line, i have the $19.99 tmo unlimited add on - on top. gives me internet access and everything

my sister liked my blackberry, i was thinking, she has tzones on her plan, and i told her she can't get internet anyway but with the bb add-on.

can she actually use opera mini on my blackberry??!

hope i was clear on what i'm asking. her sim card in a blackberry, using opera mini....will she get internet?!
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I have seen a large thread about ExchangeMyMail which it seems everyone likes. They also offer 10% discount to forum members. So they end up costing $22.50/month for hosted exchange and BES service.

I looked at the mail2web web site and they offer hosted exchange and BES service for $18.90/month ($8.95 for Business Exchange Professional + $9.95 for BES) which is an apples to apples for what ExhangeMyMail offers.

Mail2web also offers a personal exchange account for $1.99/Month and you can add BES for $9.95 = $11.94/month, but this email is [email address], BUT it allows for "Ability to change the Primary From Address" so you could forward your email to the account and then change the FROM address. This sounds like a lot of coordination??

I am a Realtor and am going to my first Blackberry. Our Multiple Listing Service will have a handheld interface out in the next few weeks and this will allow me to lookup from my BB listing info for clients. I want also to get full sync via BES from what I have read on this forum, but I need my email coming and going from [email address] or at least the appearance of it.

Any input would help! Thanks and this forum is GREAT!

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I started off using another BES and switched to Exchangemymail. At first I was a little hesitant because Exchangemymail was hyped a lot for a while in the forum. I felt there was no way they'd live up to their reputation.

What I found is that they were as good as the other posters claimed.

I've been a BB user since the start and use mine heavy daily. I'm in consulting and email is my #1 way to communicate.

Exchangemymail has great spam protection too (at first I was dubious but now I have days where if even one piece of SPAM gets through I'm looking at the device wondering what's wrong).

Definitely a vote on my end for Exchangemymail.com
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Old 04-14-2007, 08:57 AM   #29 (permalink)
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if i already have BIS, is there any point to getting BES?
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS WONDERING! Inquiring minds want to know the answer because I pay $44.99 a month with VZW for data and can't see the justification to pay an addition $20 a month for BES when I already got BIS. I am going to check the Blackberry FAQs as suggested.

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BES provides a bunch of cool features like two way wireless sync. It would definitely be nice to have, but there is no way I would every pay for.
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The missing link in BIS is the sync of everything except messages. Messages sync well with Yahoo and Gmail. I really needed calendar sync. BES gives it to me seamlessly.

Also, depending on the voice portion of your Verizon pkan, you can get discounted data. Mine is combined with the 4000 minute voice package and thwrefore data portion is only $20! I'm only at $40 with BES hosting.
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The missing link in BIS is the sync of everything except messages. Messages sync well with Yahoo and Gmail. I really needed calendar sync. BES gives it to me seamlessly.

Also, depending on the voice portion of your Verizon pkan, you can get discounted data. Mine is combined with the 4000 minute voice package and thwrefore data portion is only $20! I'm only at $40 with BES hosting.
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BES lets you sync Email, Calendar, To Do's, Contacts, and Notes wirelessly (2-way). It will also let you use the connection to connect to internal resources (company intranet, chat, internal servers, etc...).

BIS is a 1 way sync for email.
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I lived in TreoWorld for a long time, thank goodness I wised up, so I am still learning about BB's. I would really appreciate it someone could dumb down BIS and BES for me. I dont even know what I have. I am on Sprints network and use their data plan. I have access to both my work and gmail accts as well the web throught the built in browser. I think this is BIS??? I am not understanding the things I am reading about BES, what more would it add (assuming I not totally confused and already have it)?

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BES lets you sync Email, Calendar, To Do's, Contacts, and Notes wirelessly (2-way). It will also let you use the connection to connect to internal resources (company intranet, chat, internal servers, etc...).

BIS is a 1 way sync for email.

I missed this post before I asked my question above. I have two-way email access and browser access. Do I not really have either one, just using a data plan?
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I lived in TreoWorld for a long time, thank goodness I wised up, so I am still learning about BB's. I would really appreciate it someone could dumb down BIS and BES for me. I dont even know what I have. I am on Sprints network and use their data plan. I have access to both my work and gmail accts as well the web throught the built in browser. I think this is BIS??? I am not understanding the things I am reading about BES, what more would it add (assuming I not totally confused and already have it)?

Thanks, Giff
Is your work email sync'd or is it forwarded to an email on your BB? Also, does it copy your tasks, calendar etc. to your work application(lotus notes, outlook, etc). If so, it sounds like you have BES and BIS both set up. If not, then you probably just have BIS. Also, if your employer provided the device, ask someone in your IT department if it is set up on BES.
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I missed this post before I asked my question above. I have two-way email access and browser access. Do I not really have either one, just using a data plan?
Two way email may be available on some BIS set ups. Browser access should be available if you have data set up with your service provider.
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I have mail2web.com and I have been very happy. I am not sure about the others. There is no setup fee on mail2web for BES service.
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Is your work email sync'd or is it forwarded to an email on your BB? Also, does it copy your tasks, calendar etc. to your work application(lotus notes, outlook, etc). If so, it sounds like you have BES and BIS both set up. If not, then you probably just have BIS. Also, if your employer provided the device, ask someone in your IT department if it is set up on BES.
I am not sure, my BB gets email at the same time my computer gets it.

I use ACT! on my computer and I have to use a physical cord and hot sync the BB using Companion Link.

I am my employer and am way to cheap to pay myself an IT salary.

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I am not sure, my BB gets email at the same time my computer gets it.

I use ACT! on my computer and I have to use a physical cord and hot sync the BB using Companion Link.

I am my employer and am way to cheap to pay myself an IT salary.

Thanks, Giff
If you are "The Man" at work, then unless you have purchased BES, you are probably using BIS. Are you using outlook? With Exchange?
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