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Old 03-26-2007, 07:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been on the Palm OS for years, and in the past few months have tried to do without in favor of a "normal" cell phone (without paying the data plan prices). But I just can't do without Outlook synchronization and the other perks that come with "more than a cell phone".

But the current Palm offering for Verizon (700p) is rather lackluster and I've read up on the issues (SMS lockup, lag, pTunes skipping, etc) and I know Marc Blank is now employed by Palm, but the overall roadmap of the OS (as well as the lack of rumored releases in the near future) seem bleak.

So I'm looking elsewhere.

I've tried to get myself to like Windows for mobile, but just can't, so that's 80% of the handhelds available for CDMA.

I've got a video ipod for movies and music, so I just need a phone, email, sms, and datebook. Anything else is just gravy. I know the BB is geared towards heavy email, and the Treo is a little weaker in that area, but more flexible in terms of a plethora of 3rd party apps to really make the device do what you want to do.

So the only apparent viable option is a BlackBerry. I played with one in the store for about 15 minutes, and it wasn't intuitive (as I was used to the Palm OS)...and I know that I need to spend a lot more time to really evaluate the differences and benefits of each. Verizon has the 8703e, and the navigation was a little cumbersome at first, but I see that the 8800 series (which is rumored to make an appearance in CDMA carriers) has the scroll ball. Haven't had a chance to play with that yet.

I'd love to hear from those who have used both operating systems. What are your opinions of the transition.
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I went from 3 Treo 600s and a 650 to the BB 8700c. Transition was very easy IMHO. I find the email is extremely good, it gets pushed to the device every 15-20 minutes, sometimes faster. The calendar and address book are adequate for my needs, as is the voice quality. I now use a Bluetooth earpiece so that issue went away. I tried an Cingular Blackjack for a month but was very dissatisfied and went back to the BB.

The main advantage of the BB over the TREO or WM 5 device is that it is rock solid and bullet proof. Doesn't reset itself several times a day. Doesn't eat all the data and have to be resort a couple times a week. Battery lasts all day (and more)

You are correct about there not being as many add on programs for the BB, but I haven't missed them the two that I use are PocketDay and LexSpell.

I looked at the 8800 but wasn't impressed enough to leave the 8700. The keyboard didn't feel as easy to use and I did not like the trackball at all.
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If you do get a full keyboard Blackberry, you can utilize the many shortcut keys to get you places very fast. It takes a day or two to memorize them, but I think they're really helpful and it reduces the use of the track wheel tremendously. Good luck.
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I'm kind of like you. I'm a TOTAL PDA guy. Always have been. I tried to like the appeal of a basic cell phone, but I want my Outlook to travel with me. I had a Palm Treo 650, 700p, and then have been settled with a Palm Treo 700wx. However, I'm a bit tired of carrying around the brick. So I'm about to go to the Pearl with AT&T. I really loved the Pearl on T-Mob, but the network was AWFUL where I live. So I'm gonna give it a shot.
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Make sure you try out SureType on the Pearl and are comfortable with using it. If you do a lot of email and TMs, the QWERTY keypad might be better. There are those who love SureType and those who hate it so be sure to try it out first.
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Thanks for the input fellas.

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I find the email is extremely good, it gets pushed to the device every 15-20 minutes, sometimes faster.
Why does it take that long? Does Blackberry Internet Service poll at certain intervals?

With my Treo and Chatter, my IMAP account with IDLE gets pushed instantly.
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Pablo, yes, RIM's push email on the normal POP Blackberry Internet Service is pushed about every 15 minutes, if there is mail, it checks again for more in about 2 minutes. That is the normal and routine setup as intended by RIM. However, some users forward all their mail to their actual blackberry address (i.e., [email address]) and get instant mail delivery. There is a downside to that as well, in that replies to that mail will not come from your POP account email address, but from the @yourcarrier.blackberry.net address.
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Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
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Verizon has the 8703e, and the navigation was a little cumbersome at first, but I see that the 8800 series (which is rumored to make an appearance in CDMA carriers) has the scroll ball. Haven't had a chance to play with that yet.
I wouldn't say that the trackball makes using the BB any better but I've used 5 prior models of BB's with wheels so that probably colors my take on the matter. Still, I prefer my 8800 to its predecessor (the 8700). The only benefit I've found is if you're browsing web pages in desktop mode where it emulates a desktop PC so you have a cursor and can click on the trackball like you would use a mouse. I really miss the "clicks" of the wheel as you turned it as it provided valuable feedback when scrolling.
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I'd love to hear from those who have used both operating systems. What are your opinions of the transition.
I started with Treos' for some time, then Moto-Q, then Blackjack. I had avoided BlackBerrys because I thought they were too large and ugly with less than good phones.

Well after having so many small and large problems with the other phones, especially the WM phones, I finally decided to go to migrate to a BB. Also by this time, (just 8 months ago) BB had much better phones and different sizes to choose from .

As you stated, yes it takes just a short while to move from an OS that you are used to, however once you make that change you will be thrilled at what a BlackBerry can do, and the incredible speed and realiability. Multitasking is something that BB is superior at, and the ease of use is fantastic.

I was so impressed that I bought a few of them to have some choices depending on if it's a work week, or if I'm out on the weekend. I simply cannot say enough good things about the BB Platform. It has met and highly exceeded my expectations.

I cannot even imagine moving to any other platform now that I have a completely reliable trouble free, fast device. In addition the phones are fantastic, loud, clear and no problems.

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Thanks.

One thing that does give me concern is what I've read regarding bluetooth on the 8703e.

From a phonescoop review:

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Bluetooth needs to be enabled before you start driving. Unlike the RAZR, the phone doesn't automatically connect to Bluetooth when your headset it on
Is this true? Does the 8703e not automatically pair with an already set up device when in range? I have a Garmin C550 GPS with bluetooth in my car, and I like being able to leave the phone in my pocket and have it work as a car kit while I'm driving.

Is this going to be changed in the upcoming 8830?
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I go back and forth. My Treo 680 is remarkably stable, quite a shock after suffering with a dodgy 650 for over a year. What kept me in the Treo camp was the storage on an SD card. Until the Pearl there were no Blackberries that had external storage. Or a camera.

I miss 2 things I get with Palm that I don't get with Blackberry:
1. HTML email. Blackberries simply don't do html.
2. The calendar I get with DateBk5, specifically the weekly view.
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Yeah, I use(d) 2Day with the Weekview, and like the monthly text that DateBk brings.

I've placed more importance on the calendar that the email capabilities, and I think that has me favoring the Treo.

Especially as you can get push email with Chatter.
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