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Old 03-30-2007, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, I have a 7105t and am thinking of upgrading sometime this year. However, I am really confused about all of the different networks out there for browsing the internet. I have heard of Edge, G3?, etc... My wife has a palm treo that blows my Blackberry out of the water for browsing speed.

My question is, what is Blackberry coming out with this year that will possibly address the speed of the internet browsing capabilities? What network is the best? I like the looks of the 8800, but I am not convinced it has better browser speeds than my 7105t.

Would someone please fill me in on all of the pros / cons of the different networks and what bb is coming out with to take advantage of them?
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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EVDO is faster. Sprint/Verizon. My speed is very good on my 7130e and its not even Rev A.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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All Blackberries from Sprint, Verizon, Alltel, and Earthlink from the 7250 forward are EVDO capable.

The major networks in the US are:
1xRTT: Between 100 and 150 Kbps (Sprint/Verizon)
1xEVDO: Up to 1.8 Mbps (Sprint/Verizon)
GPRS: Cingular, T-Mobile (About as fast as a good Dial-up modem connection)
EDGE: Cingular, T-Mobile (About low end DSL speed 384Kbps)
UMTS and HSDPA: Cingular (Similar speeds to 1xEVDO, HSDPA is faster)
iDEN: Nextel (about modem speeds)

At the moment there aren't many UMTS or HSDPA devices on the market other than wireless cards.
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So, it sounds like it is really related to my carrier (T-Mobile) than it is with the blackberry? If I switch my service (when I purchase a new bb), I should be able to get the EVDO?

What is the 3g people are talking about?
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I'd make sure that there really is a difference in browsing speed between EVDO and EDGE on a BB. I might be mistaken but I seem to recall hearing from those who have acutally performed side-by-side tests that there's little difference between the two networks when browsing on a Blackberry due to the speed at which the Blackberry renders web pages. Again, I haven't performed a first hand comparison.
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Browsing speed is really determined by 4 things. First, your connection, be it EV-DO, 3G, or EDGE (no BB has GSM 3G yet). Next is signal strength, followed by the handheld's processor speed and also available memory.

EDGE runs typically between 50-90 kbps, max 236 kbps. EVDO is usually between 400-700 kbps, max 1.2 Mbps. GSM 3G is in that range as well, I think, maybe a bit faster.

In any case, you will not approach the speed you get on a PC with a broadband connection. And IMHO, browsing on a handheld wil not be a speedy event due to the limitations of the devices themselves. It will be a few more years before you can get any great benefit from these high speed networks on a handheld. Now tethering is another issue.
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Browsing speed is really determined by 4 things. First, your connection, be it EV-DO, 3G, or EDGE (no BB has GSM 3G yet). Next is signal strength, followed by the handheld's processor speed and also available memory.

EDGE runs typically between 50-90 kbps, max 236 kbps. EVDO is usually between 400-700 kbps, max 1.2 Mbps. GSM 3G is in that range as well, I think, maybe a bit faster.

In any case, you will not approach the speed you get on a PC with a broadband connection. And IMHO, browsing on a handheld wil not be a speedy event due to the limitations of the devices themselves. It will be a few more years before you can get any great benefit from these high speed networks on a handheld. Now tethering is another issue.

Please explain your comment about tethering. This is something I am definitely interested in utilizing.
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Exclamation EDVO rev A

I got this from vzw yesterday about speeds of EDVO rev A

Rev. A (enhanced EV-DO)
Upload Speeds (typical) = 500 xxx8211; 800 kbps
Download Speeds (typical) = 600 kbps xxx8211; 1.4 mbps

Rev. 0 (existing EV-DO)
Upload Speeds (typical) = 60 xxx8211; 80 kbps
Download Speeds (typical) = 400 xxx8211; 700 kbps
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Please explain your comment about tethering. This is something I am definitely interested in utilizing.
Tethering is using the phone as a modem.
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I got this from vzw yesterday about speeds of EDVO rev A

Rev. A (enhanced EV-DO)
Upload Speeds (typical) = 500 800 kbps
Download Speeds (typical) = 600 kbps 1.4 mbps

Rev. 0 (existing EV-DO)
Upload Speeds (typical) = 60 80 kbps
Download Speeds (typical) = 400 700 kbps

Sprint and Verizon are on Rev A, I think, with Rev B on the way, which is supposed to give speeds approaching 3 mbps. I will believe it when I see it. Too many other factors involved.
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The other thing to note is none of the VZW BB support Rev A and will not until late 2008.
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The other thing to note is none of the VZW BB support Rev A and will not until late 2008.

I get the higher speeds with my Verizon data card, but my BB is Cingular EDGE.. Good point about the Verizon BBs. Good info to have. Thanks.
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Sprint and Verizon are on Rev A, I think, with Rev B on the way, which is supposed to give speeds approaching 3 mbps. I will believe it when I see it. Too many other factors involved.
The speeds i posted are the typical speeds for rev A but there are also bust speeds which i don't have. These speeds are great; almost the same a dsl\cable or a t1..
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I'm pleased w/ the speed of my 7130e. I've tried it tethered as well and the PC browsing speed felt pretty much the same as my normal broadband connection.
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