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Old 03-30-2007, 01:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I have been looking for a new phone for a past few days. The final 3 phones that I'm considering is the nokia N95(slim chance), nokia E61i and the Blackberry 8800.

My current provider is T-mobile UK. I've checked their price plan for the blackberry 8800. It seems that the push email functionality is a compulsory feature and will cost additional 10 a month. Then for unlimited gprs for 7.50 and on top of that the 25 a month for voice.

If I'm am not mistaken, the push email functionality is to use t-mobile's BIS?

1) Do I really need it?

2) What sort of service will I get out of it? Do they just give me an email
account that can be pushed?

4) Can I surf the web, SSH and use tethering modem with just gprs?

3) Would it be wiser just to buy the phone offline without contract and get a contract for voice and unlimited gprs?

I already have my own gmail and university email accounts. I don't need another t-mobile email account. I do understand that the gmail and uni email account will not be "pushed", that I can live with. I'm planning to get a hosted email anyways.

ps:- Is tethering on EDGE network that painful?

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1. Yes. You need a Blackberry Data Plan of some sort in order to use the data features. Without a BB Data Plan, you just have a phone with sms capabilities. A BIS account is included with the necessary Blackberry data plan.

2. As mentioned above, you get BIS with your data plan.

4. No.

3. No.

You seem to not understand how push mail or the Blackberry works.
A BIS account allows you to link up to 10 e-mail accounts to your Blackberry, and they will all be pushed. It also includes a new e-mail address @blackberry.net but you don't need to use it if you don't want to.

Again, you NEED a BLACKBERRY DATA PLAN with the Blackberry. A normal GPRS data plan will not work.

As a new user, you might want to review the vast amount of information posted in the stickies in this forum.
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I completely agree with Penguin. I have a buddy who's an idiot and bought 8800 and doesn't have BIS service. Can you say RETARD?! So he walks around with an 8800 in his pocket and uses it as a regular cellphone and to send SMS messages. It defeats the entire purpose of having a BBerry. =)
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According to this thread I can use internet apps without BIS/BES.

blackberryforums.com/blackberry-network/2185-blackberry-internet-msn-chat-web-telnet-tcpip-no-bes.html

ps:- I've already read thru the wiki, still little unclear.

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Plenty of people use Blackberries without data plans as they don't need email or internet access. Just because you don't understand their needs or reasoning doesn't make them "retards".

"The purpose of a Blackberry" is whatever the owner wants it to be. Yes, they're the best push email device out there but use of push email isn't mandatory.
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