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Old 04-24-2007, 06:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All

I'm contemplating getting a BB for use in the UK I have a number of relatively simple queries - I have tried searching the forum but nothing quite answers what I need to know!

- I have outlook web access in my job - if I set the BB up with this will I still get the "push" functionality or would I have to poll for email through a web portal?

- Are there any circumstances under which I would not be able to use OWA with my BB e.g. company IT people implementing additional security features when setting up OWA?

- I'm currently deciding between Vodafone and O2 in the UK - is there a general concensus which provider is better quality/cost wise?

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Old 04-24-2007, 06:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Pete,

I also have a Blackberry which connect to my corp email on Exchange. We also have Outlook Web Access and to be honest I don't see how a Blackberry will help you with this. You would be better off buying a Windows Mobile based phone. To access your email via the blackberry your corp will have to install a Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) to push the email to the phone. You can't simply do it from your own account.
I would speak to your IT people because Blackberry is the best thing since sliced bread. OWA sucks, I hate having to use it.
As for O2 or Vodafone, no idea, we are on O2 but have used both in the past. Both have their good and bad points and I won't get into that here.
If you buy a personal blackberry then you will be able to use the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS) to push your personal POP3 and IMAP accounts to the phone, but that won't help with your corp email.
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BIS 2.0 can intergrate with OWA, it will even provide a one way reconciliation so delete commands and sent items should be reconciled with your exchange.

I don't know if there is anything that stop it from working, all exchanges I have tried have worked so far as long as you enter the correct OWA URL
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I use BIS to get at a couple of Exchange accounts via OWA. It seems to be pretty reliable. Clearly you don't get the full BES experience with 2-way reconcile, wireless calendar etc. and instant push. That said, my primary organisation doesn't have a BES and I find that the 15-min polling delay is no problem for me. I do wish it had 2-way reconcile for messages though!
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Thanks for the replies chaps, much appreciated.

Given that BIS 2.0 will integrate with OWA, is there any advantage with using BB mail connector or would I be setting myself up for some complicated IT/Network configuration?

Also - I'm slightly confused about 1 way /2 way reconcile - what does 2 way offer over 1 way?

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Oh, and about the choice of carrier: I considered O2, but eventually went for TMO. I did this because of the unlimited web-n-walk that I added onto my tariff. I also preferred their FlexT to O2's offering. That said, I have a feeling O2 offered a 75MB package for a reasonable price. Not sure about Vodafone as I didn't really look into them.

One point - if you're looking at using BIS rather than BES make sure you price up the correct plans.
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Hi Pete,

As you would be a new customer you should not have any problems using OWA with the BlackBerry (and it would be Push email) as long as like the other poster mentions you have the correct details to add the account on the email website. Customer's who have been using BlackBerry for over a year in the UK may have issues with OWA as the latest version was not supported however customers who get a new BlackBerry are put onto the latest BIS (email system) version where this issue has been resolved.

Regarding if you would be able to use OWA on the BlackBerry that's an issue you would need to check with your IT company as for example mine will not allow me to access OWA via a BB, only on a PC browser but that will be dependant on your company.

And regarding which network to go with thats a matter of personal taste really, each network had different tariffs so I would advise you to shop around.
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Thanks for the replies chaps, much appreciated.

Given that BIS 2.0 will integrate with OWA, is there any advantage with using BB mail connector or would I be setting myself up for some complicated IT/Network configuration?

Cheers

Pete
Mail connector will give you 'push' e-mail, but remember that you will need to leave your PC on 24/7. Whilst I generally do that I turn it off when I go away on trips which is when I need BB the most. Also, I didn't want to take that chance that something went wrong with it whilst I am away, hence I went back to the BIS service using OWA access.

The other option is the Redirector, which can reconcile messages when you plug in via USB cable. However, if I recall correctly it doesn't do attachments and doesn't have the over-the-air 1-way reconcile that BIS/Mail Connector have.
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Thanks for you responses guys - I'm now looking at the various tariffs & phones and can't wait to get email on the move!
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