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Old 05-13-2007, 06:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The good news is that the cruise ship I'm going on, NCL Dawn, supports voice and data for the 8800. The bad news is that they charge $2.49/min for voice and $.0195 for data.

Couple of questions
If I leave my phone ON:
Will I be charged for voice calls I don't answer, or for voicemails left for me?
Will I be charged for incoming emails that I don't read?
Same questions if I leave my phone OFF

If I ONLY want to receive text messages, is there a way to leave my phone on all day and only pay for the incoming/outgoing text messages?

Is there a way to have family contact me with critical messages without paying for the normal voice and emails that I'm willing to ignore while on vacation?
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If you turn your phone on at any point while on the ship, and it registers with the network, expect to pay for everything aforementioned.
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As you will be spending much of the cruise in port, turn off the phone between stops. While in port the ship's cellular relay system is turned off and you will be using the native counties carrier. Since you are on GSM you'll be able to roam throughout all of the islands (mostly on Digicel).

You'll need to be provisioned for international voice and data roaming by Cingular. Be aware that there are reports that you can no longer have the BB unlimited International data turned on when you leave and turned off when you return. I travel enough internationally to just leave mine on but the extra ~ $20 p/month charge may not be worth it to you. If that is the case then disable all BIS email as well as BES prior to your departure.
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I know how to turn off BIS, but can I turn off BES without involving my IT dept?
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I know how to turn off BIS, but can I turn off BES without involving my IT dept?
You should be able to turn of redirection through Desktop Manager. I don't have my work laptop home so I can't give you exact directions though.
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Since I'm on a BES and everything I do is OTA, how does changing anything on Desktop Manager come into play? I thought Redirector is for those not on BES
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Since I'm on a BES and everything I do is OTA, how does changing anything on Desktop Manager come into play? I thought Redirector is for those not on BES
There's a checkbox to redirect your BES email (it's usually checked). I assume you can uncheck it to stop all OTA email flow. Hopefully one of the BES admins can chime in before I head to the office in the morning.
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Edit your default filter to not forward on your BB (you can only edit BES filters this way).

Messages->Options->Email Filters and set "In no filters apply send email to handheld" to No. If you have any other filters that allow email forwarding you need to set them to not forward as well.

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Will I be charged for voice calls I don't answer, or for voicemails left for me?
As with any roaming outside the US you will actually get billed at twice the international roaming rate for calls that go to voicemail (once for the call being redirected outside the US and once for the call being redirected back to the US to your voicemail center). Your phone has to be turned off to avoid this.

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Yikes, this can definitely get expensive.

So, let me see if I got this.

I can use Email filters to turn off BES. I can go into Gmail and turn off the autoforward. That should stop all email

But if I leave phone on, I'll get charged big time for the voicemails that result.

If I autoforward my cell to my house phone, does that result in an international charge. So, does the voice call actually 'go' to the phone, see the autoforward instruction, and route back to my house in NJ. Or, does Cingular maintain the autoforward instruction and never send the call to my phone in the first place.
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Here's an alternate idea that I use, since it really looks like all you want is voice access. Buy yourself an international prepay SIM card like one of these:

http://www.telestial.com/sim_cards.php

(*not* endorsing those, just a random Google hit). Then, right before you leave on the trip change your voicemail on your real number to say something like "Hello, I'm out of the country. If this is important, please call +0123456789 which is my phone number while travelling internationally - otherwise, leave a message and I'll get it when I return."

Additionally, some providers offer free unlimited BlackBerry packages for international roamers! Here's one from a favourite of mine, Peoples (their prepay SIMs are dirt cheap rates):

http://www.peoples.com.hk/p_blackberry_iso.jsp

($888 HKD = ~$114 USD right now). The point of my statement is that sometimes while travelling it makes sense not to use your US sim/provider, there can be other, cheaper choices out there waiting for you.
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