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Old 06-19-2007, 08:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All

I am trying to get myself more organised and I am currently considering buying a PDA and I have heard that a Blackberry is the best. However it turns out that Blackberry is a make like Audi and has different models but I am unsure as to which one will best suit my needs. Call me sceptical but I donít trust the salesmen in the phone shops so I am hoping some of you could advise me.


My Situation: I run two businesses, one of which is internet based and the other which is totally offline. I would like to use Outlook (I have Outlook 2002 installed on my desktop and intend to install it on my new laptop too) to plan everything. This means I want access to the taskís in each category as well as the calendar and Notes section of my Outlook on my PDA. In addition to outlook other software programs I would like on my PDA are Excel and also word.


Q1: Can any Blackberry give me access to all of those Outlook 2002 features?

Q2: When the Blackberry Ďsyncsí with my pc and or laptop will all the tasks I have added on my blackberry automatically appear in my tasks on my pc and or laptop as well as anything I have added to the calendar using my blackberry.

Q3: Can anyone recommend a program that will allow my laptop and my pc and a Blackberry to all sync all parts of Outlook with each other? I do not have an exchange server, but I can network my pc and my laptop. Also will this sync take everything from each so for example if I have added 2 new tasks to my laptop, 1 new task on my pc and another 5 plus a calendar entry on my blackberry will they all share these new taskís and calendar entries with each other? (Sorry if thatís a really silly question, Iím hoping they do, it seems like it would all only be of any use to anyone if this is how it works but having never seen it done I have no idea and there does not seem to be anything online that makes this clear).

Q4: I have heard that Blackberryís pick up email all the time, and I know a friend of mine has one and calls it his crackberry as he just canít get away from work. But surely there is a way to make a Blackberry NOT collect email? Is there a way, I assume there is an option in them that allows you to not accept email on it at all is that correct?


If in reading these questions it becomes clear to you which Blackberry (or if not a Blackberry which PDA/phone) would most suit my needs, please do let me know.


Thanks in advance for your help.
Andy

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Old 06-19-2007, 09:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/160)

all blackberries can do the above. I would recomend getting an 8700 or equivalent becaus they are easy to type on. The downside is that they weigh more and feel a lot different than a normal phone. If typing is not a big deal you could try out the pearl or 71xx series. What service provider do you have?
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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any blackberry will do what u need except for turning off email reception and back on again only 4.2 devices can that which would be a gsm 8700 or the newer pearl/8800/curve
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Thank you both for your advice.

The service provider I currently use is Orange (for my mobile phone), however I am at the end of my contract so I will switch to whichever provider will let me take my number and give me the best deal, as long as the coverage is good (which I think most are nowadays).
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There is one other feature I failed to mention and that is handsfree. So after looking at the specs and comparing devices at BlackBerry - Compare BlackBerry Devices | Wireless Handheld & Mobile Features Comparison From RIM I think I have narrowed it down to two possible's either the 8800 or the 8100 pearl.

Q1:Is the '8100 Pearl' the same newer pearl that donthateme13 mentioned?

Q2: Also are both of these 4.2 devices as you mentioned that is what I need to allow turning off email reception and back on again.

So far the best deals I have been able to find are with Vodaphone. I use just around 250 minutes a month and less than 10 texts a month. So the most suitable packages I could find were the 300 free minutes with 100 free texts for £13.50 for the first 6 months then up to £27pm after that and on that deal I could get the 8100 Pearl for free or the 8800 for £60.

I also checked out the phones4u (which had nothing at all) and the carphone warehouse site.

Q3: If anyone knows of some where I might get a better deal please let me know.

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Old 06-20-2007, 09:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by andynowdude View Post
Q3: Can anyone recommend a program that will allow my laptop and my pc and a Blackberry to all sync all parts of Outlook with each other? I do not have an exchange server, but I can network my pc and my laptop. Also will this sync take everything from each so for example if I have added 2 new tasks to my laptop, 1 new task on my pc and another 5 plus a calendar entry on my blackberry will they all share these new taskxxx8217;s and calendar entries with each other? (Sorry if thatxxx8217;s a really silly question, Ixxx8217;m hoping they do, it seems like it would all only be of any use to anyone if this is how it works but having never seen it done I have no idea and there does not seem to be anything online that makes this clear).
Desktop Manager comes with every BB. If you don't get the CD with yours for some reason you can always download the latest version directly from RIM. DM includes Intellisync which does a very good job of syncing everything (calendar, tasks, notes & contacts) between the BB and Outlook.

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Q4: I have heard that Blackberryxxx8217;s pick up email all the time, and I know a friend of mine has one and calls it his crackberry as he just canxxx8217;t get away from work. But surely there is a way to make a Blackberry NOT collect email? Is there a way, I assume there is an option in them that allows you to not accept email on it at all is that correct?
You could just not set up email if you don't intend to use it at all. It's just a bit trickier if you want to turn email off and on as it's really not designed to do so. The best approach if you don't want to be alerted to new email is just to switch to the Phone Only profile which won't alert you as new email arrive (email will still arrive -- you just won't be alerted).

The problem with a lot of the email on/off approaches is that they really only temporarily disable email which means that when you go to turn email delivery on again, your device is flooded with email that has queued up.

Some clarification on your email requirements would help but for the functionality you've specified pretty much any BB will do. You just need to select a model offered by your carrier that has the features that you prefer.

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Q1:Is the '8100 Pearl' the same newer pearl that donthateme13 mentioned?
There's currently only one Pearl (the 8100) though some carriers offer it in colors other than black. Make sure that you can stand SureType -- it's a make-or-break feature for many people. Most people need a couple of weeks to get fully proficient on it or to determine that it's really not their thing.

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Q2: Also are both of these 4.2 devices as you mentioned that is what I need to allow turning off email reception and back on again.
The Pearl/8100, Curve/8300, and 8800 are all 4.2 devices with data on/off which is why donthateme13 suggested them.

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Ditto everything stated by Takeshi above.

Also, make sure you consider the monthly cost of the BlackBerry Data Plan in your carrier cost, as the Data Plan is REQUIRED for email, internet, data, etc. If a carrier has BlackBerry Unlimited Data Plans, consider that, rather than a limited 5MB plan or such.
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Wow Takeshi, great reply, thank you for taking the time to fully answer all my questions.

As for clarification on my email needs, I really dont ever want to see emails on my phone. The whole purpose of this exercise for me is to allow me to better manage my time and if an email arrives and I read it on my phone I will only read it again on my pc before replying and of course reading the same thing twice is not best use of time.

I also spoke with my brother today and told him I am considering a Blackberry, he has had 3 different PDA type phones (never a Blackberry though) and he advised against one. Although he did not say anything specifically negative about them he just said there are better PDA's on the market. For example he spoke about things made by The HTC and looking at their site it doea appear that their The HTC S710 would do everything I need too.

I have also learned about this extra charge that seems to come with Blackberry's to do with the internet part that is compulsory. Although I must say when I spoke with orange they said they would allow me to have either of the two Blackberry's I mentioned above, with the 'Blackberry bundle' which gives 6mb per month and then you are charged after that, plus 400 free minutes and 100 free texts each month for £27.50 including the Blackberry bundle thing. Which on the face of it sounds like a very good deal.

I know one of my brothers previous PDA's looked like somthing I could get on with it was an O2 XDA Executive (called somthing different on other networks), at the moment he has a HTC thing (although it does not have a keyboard so I dont think I would get on with it). All of this leads me to my next question (sorry for all the questions).

Q1: Are there any other products that you guys know of that I should be considering for my needs? Is a Blackberry really what I need or would I be better off with a pda phone such as these mentioned (or any other if you know of one I should be considering). What are the pros and cons, after speaking with my brother it is clear to me he is very firmly in the dont buy a blackberry camp, whilst I assume you guys on this forum will be in the pro blackberry camp, but what are the rational reasons for and against?
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