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AcoosticAnt 06-21-2007 01:30 PM

BB Advantages Over Windows Based Smart Phones?
 
Hi,

I bought a BB 7130e through alltel about 6 months ago and have thoroughly enjoyed it so far. I must say I wish I had been a little more patient and waited for the new ones that don't use the wheel on the side.

To be honest, when I bought it originally I chose a BB because that is all I ever heard about. They seemed to be much more popular in the corporate world than the windows based smart phones.

Could someone please tell me why? Why do people who do research choose BB over windows based? My brother just bought a windows based smart phone and when he asks me what makes my BB better, I would like to give him a answer.

Nothing extravagant required...just a few simple (but techincal) answers will suffice.

Thanks guys (and gals)!
K

Dubdub 06-21-2007 01:46 PM

After using both the BB for a few years, a WM5 device (Blackjack) and 4 Treos, the main thing in my opinion is the stability of the OS. The BB doesn't reboot itself on a random basis for no reason at all, nor does it need rebooting on a frequent basis as does many WM devices.

However, the push email was the main reason I switched. Email is automatically sent to my BB without me having to do anything other than the initial set up. It works, it isn't broken, so there is no reason to fix it.


Security is another big plus, as is security, build quality and the PDA features (email, contacts, calendar and phone) in one device.

Dawg 06-21-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubdub (Post 576408)
After using both the BB for a few years, a WM5 device (Blackjack) and 4 Treos, the main thing in my opinion is the stability of the OS. The BB doesn't reboot itself on a random basis for no reason at all, nor does it need rebooting on a frequent basis as does many WM devices.

However, the push email was the main reason I switched. Email is automatically sent to my BB without me having to do anything other than the initial set up. It works, it isn't broken, so there is no reason to fix it.


Security is another big plus, as is security, build quality and the PDA features (email, contacts, calendar and phone) in one device.

The hang ups were my biggest issue, would just lock up for no reason at all. I was a BB guy and I wanted to see what all the buz was about wm devices so I bought one and two weeks later I threw it in the garbage. Becuase I didnt want to sell anyone a piece of crap.

The stability and push email can not be beat.

ladydi 06-21-2007 04:35 PM

I'm in agreement about stability. Also, depending on how you use your device, i.e. how much data usage you have, the battery life on the BB is better than the WM devices. I go days without charging my BB. I believe I read somewhere that the blackjack comes with two batteries so that the user can make it through the day without plugging it in. Although, it may just be a plot to get the user to reboot the dumb thing rather than tell them that it has to be rebooted constantly. lol.

As for security, there really isn't any to speak of on WM. If you aren't a corporate user, I doubt this would effect you. But I can lock the BB's down so tight they are almost unusable. That's a lot of security options and I like having them despite the fact that I don't employ most of them.

theBorg 06-21-2007 05:12 PM

Also there is a thriving developer community for after-market BB applications. I can't compare that to Windows Mobile devices since I've never used one... but am happy with what's available for the BB - many free.

Then there's the User Interface. It's clean, intuitive and well integrated for cross-application functions.

AcoosticAnt 06-21-2007 05:17 PM

Thank you for the thoughtful replies. I now feel better about my BB choice. :smile: I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I knew they wouldn't carry such heavy endorsements from fortune 500 clientel without being the best thing available.

Thanks again,
K

Nandy 06-21-2007 07:14 PM

I guess our guys here at work and me got the bad apples. I work for a large, large telecommunication company and all we have is problems with the BB. Ulike the other users, we have to reset the devices dialy and seeing you device reboot by itself is not uncommon. My work gets me in contact with different departments across the states and everyone i talk to have the same problem. Keep in mind that some of these devises are in BES ("new" 8700 devices) and some in BIS. Mine being legacy (7290) is in BIS. I have as much problem as they do. If i were paying for it I would have changed it long time ago.
When they are up they are great... Like anything else...

8-)

JGBerry 06-21-2007 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcoosticAnt (Post 576384)
Hi,

I bought a BB 7130e through alltel about 6 months ago and have thoroughly enjoyed it so far. I must say I wish I had been a little more patient and waited for the new ones that don't use the wheel on the side.

To be honest, when I bought it originally I chose a BB because that is all I ever heard about. They seemed to be much more popular in the corporate world than the windows based smart phones.

Could someone please tell me why? Why do people who do research choose BB over windows based? My brother just bought a windows based smart phone and when he asks me what makes my BB better, I would like to give him a answer.

Nothing extravagant required...just a few simple (but techincal) answers will suffice.

Thanks guys (and gals)!
K


the blackberry does email and it does it WELL. it was made for portable email and it works really well and the most efficient way. it waits for emails and doesn't have to constantly log in to check. RIM takes care of that for you with their servers. the only negative side is that when RIM's servers go down, which have been rather frequent over this year (2007), your device becomes a brick. unless you can log into a web client through the browser, the blackberry becomes just an oversized cell phone.

battery life on the blackberry is nice. it's just an overall great package and i think RIM knows what they are doing when it comes to business solutions.

Dubdub 06-21-2007 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nandy (Post 576729)
I guess our guys here at work and me got the bad apples. I work for a large, large telecommunication company and all we have is problems with the BB. Ulike the other users, we have to reset the devices dialy and seeing you device reboot by itself is not uncommon. My work gets me in contact with different departments across the states and everyone i talk to have the same problem. Keep in mind that some of these devises are in BES ("new" 8700 devices) and some in BIS. Mine being legacy (7290) is in BIS. I have as much problem as they do. If i were paying for it I would have changed it long time ago.
When they are up they are great... Like anything else...

8-)

I am wondering if there is not some corporate IT policy that has been pushed to the 8700s and also installed on your older device? Sounds like it to me.

Donbp 06-22-2007 06:01 AM

The main reason had always been the security of the BES server. Since WM5 that is no longer an issue and most corporations (at least the big ones) are now allowing either BBs or WM5 (and 6) phones to be attached to their corporate email networks.

BB8100 06-22-2007 08:46 AM

OS stability (with large data sets) and push email

No platform can touch it, yet.

RoC1909 06-22-2007 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawg (Post 576556)
The hang ups were my biggest issue, would just lock up for no reason at all.

Typical of ANY version of Windows. While some versions might not do it as much, (WindowsME was a hunk of crap that shouldn't have EVER seen the light of day outside of the Microsoft testing labs. WindowsXP doesn't do it AS much but still does. I have no idea and want nothing to do with Vista) I doubt that Windows will ever be 'lockup free' due to the TONS of different hardware configurations available and because it's a...uh, Microsoft product.

archer6 06-23-2007 12:34 AM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7130/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

This question is easy for me to answer having used both. The short version is there is simply no contest. It's BlackBerry hands down. Completely reliable, fast, easy to use, & always works. If you want a time saving device that always works & gets the job done, the choice is simple: BlackBerry.

ranger951 06-25-2007 10:50 PM

What about if your on a BIS? How is a BB more secure? I have my own company and we have 6 BB 7520's and 7100i's which are all on a BIS. I hate my 7100i, but I hated the screen on my 7520 even more (another subject).

I like the fact that it just works, I have never had a Treo but I have used Palm devices and they occasionally lock up, this usually because I put all kinds of software on it. BB's take one heck of a beating! I have drop kicked mine more than a few times as it pops out of the holster or I am just clumsy with it. I dropped my palm 3 one time and the screen cracked. The only time I reboot my BB is when I drop it hard enough and the battery pops out:-o . This is the biggest reason I have not switched yet, and the people that work for me are even clumsier with their phones. Are all BB's this rugged, or just the Nextel versions?

I wish BB would make an executive model that would do pictures, video, streaming video, and everything else the Treo does. I understand that some people work in fields that don't allow cameras and such but there are a lot of BB users that don't need restrictions on use.


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