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Old 07-23-2007, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I just got a new Blackberry 8100 (pearl). There is an application for maps that came with the phone. Is there a way to view maps without starting GPS? Also, how does google maps work and would this app let me view maps "offline"? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Your phone doesn't have GPS. You can use BlackBerry Maps just fine w/o GPS. Neither BB Maps or Google Maps will let you view maps w/o a data connection
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I assume the mapping app you are taling about is BlackBerry Maps. You should be able to map a location (address), but you must have a connection and a data plan. Google maps is similar but it provides much search capabilty. Stinsonddogs GPS FAQ would be great help to you if you haven't looked at it already.
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hrmm... i haven't switched to a data plan yet so is this the reason why i cant view maps? is there a way to view maps w/o a data plan?
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Lot of discussion on the board re what your asking. So far as I'm aware, answer is no. All nav apps for BB download the maps.
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Yes, you'll definitely need a Blackberry Data Plan.
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Does it seem to anyone else that more and more people are trying to avoid the Blackberry Data plan? Why do they keep trying?
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I think that's the direct result of their consumer push for the phone. It's attractive but a lot of people can't afford it but still want it. I bet back before the Pearl/8800 you didn't hear questions like this nearly as much.
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Yes, data plan...


(question to self), why does someone get a blackberry without getting a data plan? It's like getting a Ferrari without tires...
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hi!
i got my bb pearl, and i didnt choose and data plans, but when i installed opera mini, i could go to websites and stuff. im i going to be charged ??
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I would think that you might. When I had my Razr, I would accidently activate the "media net" button and I'd get charged for going online. I didn't have any kind of media plan for that either.
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I think that's the direct result of their consumer push for the phone. It's attractive but a lot of people can't afford it but still want it. I bet back before the Pearl/8800 you didn't hear questions like this nearly as much.
think you mean Pearl/8300
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oh it always happens to me on the samsung d800 and motorola z3, but you can turn that off, from the menu, i dont know about the razr but it sure works for samsung and the z3( im not sure if it is called z3, ut its a slide phone(new) :p
and i found a way to use the media net with your internet, but it might use minutes!! let me know if you need more info on that ;)
i will see if i get charged for using the internet on the pearl!!!
if any of you guys know if i will get charged, please let me know!!

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I would think that you might. When I had my Razr, I would accidently activate the "media net" button and I'd get charged for going online. I didn't have any kind of media plan for that either.
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no data connection, but doesnt it use the minutes???

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Your phone doesn't have GPS. You can use BlackBerry Maps just fine w/o GPS. Neither BB Maps or Google Maps will let you view maps w/o a data connection
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no data connection, but doesnt it use the minutes???
no, again, it uses data from your BlackBerry Data Plan.
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i dont have a data plan.

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no, again, it uses data from your BlackBerry Data Plan.
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Does it seem to anyone else that more and more people are trying to avoid the Blackberry Data plan? Why do they keep trying?
Because they want something for nothing. A common human instinct.
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I think that's the direct result of their consumer push for the phone. It's attractive but a lot of people can't afford it but still want it. I bet back before the Pearl/8800 you didn't hear questions like this nearly as much.
I'm just guessing as well but it does seem related to the number of people picking up the more consumer-oriented BB's.
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At the peril of spinning off topic...

I have observed a strong correlation between greatly increased numbers of requests for free services (like data) as well as for hacks and cracks.

It's a tough position for RIM and the carriers. RIM needs to gain more market share - every public company needs to do this. The carriers want to increase data subscribers - it's a big profit generator. But those who typically purchase the consumer devices don't have the disposable income to burn on data services.

If a carrier can pull off the fixed - mobile convergence (hotspot@home on steriods), there will be a way to make mobile data available to underserved consumers. Go T-Mo.
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