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Old 08-02-2007, 11:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know this is dumb, but BBs are known for their push technology.
I have had bb for about 5 days, very happy with it!!!!!

Except I have to worry about overage charges (in canada)
question is:

- many times i hvae seen that bb has those two lil arrows on top rt screen going back n forth, and at times i get email rt after thats done and at times i dont. my question is - am i getting charged for data when those arrows are on?

- also i have noticed is that during a call, those arrows stay on, sending and receiving data throughout the call?

is this normal for bb?
so when do we get data charged? only when we see an email in our inbox?
i dont use any other features than email
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If email is the ONLY thing you use (other than the phone) then that is all you will get charged for.
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I'd also like to add that although blackberry's are great at email ... their STILL cellphones and VERY proficient at it more so than other phones.

Let me explain.

1) during a call you phone (BB, Motorola, Nokia, SE, etc) will open a voice channel to the network hence the reason those 3d arrows stay there during a call.

2) GSM based cellphones every 30 to 60 seconds WILL communicate with the network. Basically saying "peek a boo! I'm still here I'm still on, anything on the network change yet, please let me know". ANd the network will provide updates to the unit ...

3) updates from the network include .... period changes to another cell tower = load balancing, IP address changes = seemless, features on the switch ie Call forwarding/waiting/roaming changes = BBs are exceptional in this regard because ANY of these changes show up on the BB's in REAL TIME! NO other cellphone/smartphone does this. For instance If I work at Rogers and make a change NOT in you billing account but on the switch for your mobile # or IMSI (SIM Card) say removing call forwarding ... within a heartbeat you will NO LONGER see this a selectable option in the menu of your phone app on the BB.

Considering that Nokia, Ericsson, & Nortel make switches that ALL GSM carriers use Rogers is exclusively Ericsson, TMobile was all Nokia & Ericsson (could have changed) their phones don't provide this real time changes in the menus not even in MS Mobile phones do this.

Does this help?

Proof hold a regular S40 or SE phone near a TV set ... turn the speakers up and you'll hear that Krazzie noise going off through the TV speakers - even a samsung or motorola or nec gsm phone will do this. 2 watt phones like all BB's or most of them will be a stronger and louder signal.
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I'd also like to add that although blackberry's are great at email ... their STILL cellphones and VERY proficient at it more so than other phones.

Let me explain.

1) during a call you phone (BB, Motorola, Nokia, SE, etc) will open a voice channel to the network hence the reason those 3d arrows stay there during a call.

2) GSM based cellphones every 30 to 60 seconds WILL communicate with the network. Basically saying "peek a boo! I'm still here I'm still on, anything on the network change yet, please let me know". ANd the network will provide updates to the unit ...

3) updates from the network include .... period changes to another cell tower = load balancing, IP address changes = seemless, features on the switch ie Call forwarding/waiting/roaming changes = BBs are exceptional in this regard because ANY of these changes show up on the BB's in REAL TIME! NO other cellphone/smartphone does this. For instance If I work at Rogers and make a change NOT in you billing account but on the switch for your mobile # or IMSI (SIM Card) say removing call forwarding ... within a heartbeat you will NO LONGER see this a selectable option in the menu of your phone app on the BB.

Considering that Nokia, Ericsson, & Nortel make switches that ALL GSM carriers use Rogers is exclusively Ericsson, TMobile was all Nokia & Ericsson (could have changed) their phones don't provide this real time changes in the menus not even in MS Mobile phones do this.

Does this help?

Proof hold a regular S40 or SE phone near a TV set ... turn the speakers up and you'll hear that Krazzie noise going off through the TV speakers - even a samsung or motorola or nec gsm phone will do this. 2 watt phones like all BB's or most of them will be a stronger and louder signal.

Jagga, thanks a for a technical explanation - it makes sense.
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