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Old 09-04-2007, 10:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I hope that someone here can help me. My boss has asked me to research what is needed to use a blackberry overseas. One of his top managers is going to Greece next week, and wants to be able to use her Blackberry while she is there. I understand that she may have to purchase a new Sim Card once she is in Greece, but other than that I really don't know much about what is needed to use the Blackberry overseas. I thought this forum might be the best place to start my research. If anyone has any information or can direct me to where I might find what I need, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Any GSM Blackberry from TMobile or AT&T will work overseas. In fact, they work better overseas than they do in the US, IMO.

Verizon has a new World Edition 8830 that works on CDMA in the US but uses GSM overseas.

Any of those will work great in Greece.
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So if I understand correctly, our Deputy Director will not have to purchase a different Sim Card once she arrives in Greece?

Thanks for the information.
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That is correct. Make sure that on whatever carrier you go with that you have international service. TMobile calls it "World Class Service." I'm not sure what the other carriers call it. Just make sure you tell them you'll be using it overseas. It will all work (it may not be cheap over there but it will work.)
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The Sprint 8830 will work overseas, too.....
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think the account is already set up, so I will have to see if she has international service already.

Thanks for all the help.
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If she wants to use a local SIM card, the device will need to be unlocked. Otherwise, what John said is correct.
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I have done some additional research and I guess I may not have posed my original correctly. If I understand my research, our Deputy Director will be able to use her Blackberry overseas for voice communication only (as a cell phone), but will not be able to access email and other data applications. My original question was meant to see how she could access her email on her Blackberry. I was under the impression that this is why the local SIM Card was needed. Now it seems this is not the case.

Does anyone know how our Deputy Director can access email on her Blackberry while she is in Greece or is this just something that is not yet possible?

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I have done some additional research and I guess I may not have posed my original correctly. If I understand my research, our Deputy Director will be able to use her Blackberry overseas for voice communication only (as a cell phone), but will not be able to access email and other data applications. My original question was meant to see how she could access her email on her Blackberry. I was under the impression that this is why the local SIM Card was needed. Now it seems this is not the case.

Does anyone know how our Deputy Director can access email on her Blackberry while she is in Greece or is this just something that is not yet possible?
Risikio,
Can you provide a little more info? What carrier is your Dep Director with? What model BB are you considering? Please provide us with all the pertinent info and we can give you good information.
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I used my AT&T blackberry 8800 in Egypt without any problems at all and didn't have to get a local SIM for data.

All I did was switch to the AT&T Blackberry International Unlimited plan so I was able to get my email, use gmail, google maps (comes in handy when trying to find places in Cairo). I didn't use the phone for voice at all since AT&T asks you to bend over then charges $2.49 a minute. Instead I picked up a local SIM card and a cheap Nokia phone and got a local number. Then I "Call forwarded" my Vonage phone# in the US over to the Egyptian number and only paid 18cents a minute for my incoming calls from the U.S.
AT&T also locks you in now for a year when you switch to the International plan. You used to be able to switch back and forth ...

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If you have an international plan, when you turn on the phone after you land, the bb will search for the appropriate network, log on and give you a little welcome message. Thereafter you will be connected just as you are at home - both phone and email. One thing you have to get used to is dialing numbers correctly on the phone. The bb will try to fill in the country codes etc which can make calling a pain if you have not configured properly. For the uninitiated, this can be a PAIN - but not insurmountable.

Email is NO PROBLEM.

You will probably be raped by your carrier for roaming and usage charges.

In some cases, you have to select the network manually instead of automatically. I wouldn't expect problems in Europe but Latin America can be frustrating.
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I'm in Germany but regularly travel to other countries in Europe and to US with my BB. As others have said, as long as there is some sort of International Roaming Agreement with the carrier you should not have any issues (noting that Europe is exclusively GSM, not CDMA of course).

BB works just as it does at home...email, internet, phone (ensure all the numbers are set up in the address book with international dialling codes before you go - most Europeans do this anyway). It will cost, but if the company is paying and your manager is on a business trip, who cares? If they are not on a business trip, leave the BB at home, who wants to get work emails on vacation?!

I wouldn't bother with a local SIM...it'll mean a new number if anyone wants to call them, there's the hassle of having to 'top up' the credit on a PAYG SIM, and it might not include a data plan. Not worth the pain
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Risikio,
Can you provide a little more info? What carrier is your Dep Director with? What model BB are you considering? Please provide us with all the pertinent info and we can give you good information.
Our carrier is AT & T. The model # is a Pearl 1800. The information I received about not being able to use email came from our account manager at Cellular One. This however did not sound right to me and after reading the additional posts, it seems like our Deputy Director should be able to access email while in Greece.
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I am on ATT and have a 7130c. My voice and data (email) work fine overseas. I am there monthly and have used it in virtually every country in Western Europe.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'll just throw in another, 'Yes it'll work' anecdote, as I took my BB 8700c with me last year on a 10 day trip to Germany and it worked just like it does here at home -- except my bill was $300 more than it usually is. Keep in mind I also (stupidly) used my phone and my husband used his phone for voice calls. My in-law's also used our phones to make calls home as they have Verizon and left their phones at home. Thankfully, my father in law picked up the tab (the trip was his idea) on the extra $300.

It was soooo handy dandy to have it with me. I was on a family trip but was able to stay in touch with work while gone which was important as someone important resigned within one of the organizations I cover (I'm a reporter) and I was able to communicate with him via e-mail while my boss was still trying to figure out who would write the story. Heh.

BlackBerry on GSM service, IMHO, rocks.
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I had my AT&T 8800 in Greece this past summer and it worked well with the blackberry unlimited international data plan. Voice calls did cost though. However, the phone did not work initially and I had to phone CS to get them to fix it once I got there.
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I'm also with AT&T and regularly set up our Blackberry users with International access. There are two things I set up. For voice, I add Discount International Roaming (costs $5.99 per month) and for data I add the Blackberry Unlimited International Data bolt-on (costs $19.99) per month. Hope this helps!
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The main problem when you want to keep using your BB data is that you need also to stick to your carrier for voice...and roaming charges are prohibitive abroad. I found this company Europe Cell Phone Rentals - mobile phone rental Europe - International cell phones - cell phone rental, GSM phone rental where they provide you with a postpaid sim card that is compatible with BES or BIS BB users. Plans give low calling rates and you can activate/deactive the BB option at will. They also have a call forward feature so I forward my TMB number to a local US number they give me and it rings directly on my BB when I travel. Bottom line: still BB data but low low local calling rates.
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Well at least he won't have a $3000 iphone roaming charge.
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