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Old 09-05-2007, 09:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was there for a few weeks over the early summer and notice everyone uses email on there regular phones because data is so much cheaper than minutes or SMS. yet no one uses Blackberry handsets. no carriers even support them.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There's not many but carriers do support them.

NTT DoCoMo sells the 8707h.

Also, if you noticed, there are not many Windows Mobile handsets there either. Softbank is the only carrier to sell one.

BlackBerry is not prevalent in Korea either.
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Japan uses a very unusual mobile phone system. The only BlackBerrys that work there are the 3G ones, which haven't been around for long anywhere, relatively speaking. My boss had to buy a 3G BB specifically because he travels to Japan a lot. Korea is the same situation.
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I tend to travel there frequently as well. I'm really torn right now between Symbian S60 devices from Nokia and Blackberry devices.
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The only BB that I know of that will work is the 8707v. But it is only GPRS capable here in the US. I assume the 8707h is a similar device.

Japan uses WCDMA2100, although Softbank has a couple GSM devices but again, they do not support the US GSM frequencies.
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Maybe the same reason that you could not think of a name?????

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The last I checked, an individual could not buy a BB in Japan. Only Corporate customers. The 8707 will work with both ntt and softbank (vodafone).
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corporate access via docomo is my problem exactly aside from not being able to buy the phones as a individual in japan the ones you can obtain in here are blocked! and changing to a local sim card is not possible. although the is not the worst problem since i must own 3 or 4 gsm phones

i am torn between the Blackberry's 8707h (or one with true world wide service) and nokia's e61i wi fi is a really nice feature but only the e61 is available in Tokyo it would be nice to have a device that worked on both U.S. an Asian (japan) 3G networks as well as gsm/ any suggestions!!

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Don't think you will find a phone with "true" worldwide service. If so it would be a brick and way too expensive. Just too many "standard" technologies in use - WCDMA, GSM (several flavors/frequencies) and CDMA.
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I called NTT DoCoMo USA (NTT DoCoMo USA Namikiteru Wi Fi & Namimail for BlackBerry) about this. According to them I can buy a 8707g from them and use my AT&T SIM for service. As long as I have International Roaming the BlackBerry will work in Japan.
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The only BB that I know of that will work is the 8707v. But it is only GPRS capable here in the US. I assume the 8707h is a similar device.

Japan uses WCDMA2100, although Softbank has a couple GSM devices but again, they do not support the US GSM frequencies.
Softbank doesn't use GSM. No one does in Japan. Softbank uses UMTS2100 like NTT, but they both sell phones with GSM bands in them for global roaming. Hence the reason people like to spend $800 to get a Sharp 904SH here.

The 8707h is the device that NTT DoCoMo sells. Any variation of 8707 will function there.
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Here is a good article that talks about your Blackberry issue in Japan and what you can do about it.

Opinion: Call Me in Tokyo -- If You Can
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